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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From a purely academic, cultural, and quality standpoint, and not an athletic one (which, let's be honest, is the real relevance of the Ivy League), it's: Stanford, MIT, Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, and Johns Hopkins.

Let's not get into inane hypotheticals about DI vs DIII, or bring in lesser schools just for the sake of entertaining your own personal fantasy.[/quote]

So, when you eliminate athletic considerations and personal fantasies, you might as well close the thread. Too much money in athletics to be ignored, but, if you do, this becomes an exercise in "inane hypotheticals".

Reality is that: Stanford wants to join the Big Ten and would receive no benefit whatsoever academically, culturally, or qualitatively from joining the Ivy League.

Reality is that: Northwestern is in the Big Ten and sitting pretty. Again, no benefit from Ivy League membership.

Reality is that: MIT, JHU, & Chicago could all benefit from Ivy League membership. And the Big Ten is not interested in any of these three schools, so feel free to send out the invitations.

But, I get your point and, if we agree to ignore reality, then you are right. And I mean this in a polite and respectful manner--not trying to be insincere or humorous in this final paragraph.
Without big time sports, Duke ceases to exist. Athletics is a main component of Duke's culture and identity.[/quote]

MIT, Hopkins and Chicago's alumni would never go for the changes to admissions that would have to take place.[/quote]

All of this is true. Figured I’d have to come here and make the same arguments around Vandy. From an athletic perspective there is no way in hell a high academic school like Stanford, Wake, Duke, Vandy or Northwestern leaves a power 5 conference to join the weak ass Ivy League. Hopkins actually is a good fit as the Ivy matters in their most cherished sport.  In the hypothetical world where the Ivy looks to add a team, and if the Big Ten takes away JHU's associate membership for lacrosse, that could happen. [/quote]

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