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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's very likely SCOTUS will ban affirmative action in late June 2023 decision.

Once that happens -affirmative action will immediately be banned as a factor.

So what happens then for HS classes of 2024 onward? Will private colleges voluntarily ban legacy preference? I have heard a number of Ivies are discussing this to have ready to announce.

Will more public schools offer the Texas model of guaranteed admit for top 10% of each high school in the state?

Would love a sober discussion of this here....[/quote]

While SCOTUS may ban affirmative action and/or the use of race in college admissions, it will not ban using first generation and lower income backgrounds as factors.  And [b]since a disproportionate share of URMs are either first generation and/or lower income, there may not be that big of an impact. [/b] Plus, colleges can always consider how an applicant has overcome adversity as expressed in a personal essay (e.g., overcame discrimination).  [/quote]

Nope, by headcount, there are many, many more poor whites than poor URMs.  I think it's a fallacy of people who live in liberal urban areas on the coasts that the poor people are overwhelmingly black.  Rural poverty actually looks very different.[/quote]

NP: Yes, numerically, the majority of first gens are white. However, the majority of first gen applicants to the top 100 schools are URM or Asian American. Rural first gen white students apply to regional public universities / community colleges. There is also greater skepticism regarding elite universities as they are more likely to be conservative. URMs in urban areas are more likely to be exposed to programs like Questbridge and exposed to progressive messages emphasizing education as a means of social mobility.[/quote]

PP:  as someone who's been poor (and white), this is also because until a very recent past, colleges just didn't give a damn about this population.  There were scholarships and outreach programs for URMs, but nothing much for others.  Now there is a big emphasis on first gen, and I expect the poor white kids will follow the money; they are not stupid.   [/quote]

But it’s not about being stupid or not. The skepticism about the value of a college degree has significantly increased amongst white students, especially low income males. Or else elite colleges culturally change and become less left leaning, the demographic composition of first gen students to top 100 schools will not change. I do think there will be an increase in first gen white girls and Asian American students. [/quote]

*slight increase [/quote]

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