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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/

I agree with a lot of what this guy says.  IMO "we" do too much to prolong life, with no quality of life.   I saw a lot of comments during the early Covid days along the lines of "We all have to lock down or else my 97 year old grandmother with (lists 7 or 8 serious-terminal health conditions) might DIE!"
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But who are you to say whether someone has quality of life? My mom with cancer said she wanted to live as long as possible and wanted every treatment possible.  Maybe someone else would look at her and say her quality of life wasn't worth it, but it's her life and should be her choice.[/quote]

If she's paying for it out of pocket, sure.   [/quote]

By that line of thinking then every obese person should pay oop as well.  [/quote]

Nope.   False analogy.[/quote]

NP. I don’t know… We can’t help aging. We can however often do quite a lot to help being obese or a smoker. [/quote]

Old people rarely contribute to society, even in a basic way.  They can’t work as well as they could when they were younger, they don’t have children or other dependents, they suck up tons of social resources, what used to be basic interventions are dangerous and risky, etc.  These would be factors considered by an organ transplant team and is why there are age cutoffs for organ transplants and it’s rare an older person would be selected anyways.

Most importantly we spend a shit ton of money earmarked for healthcare on the final year of life.  [b]It’s some crazy percentage of total expenditure. [/b] You want free universal healthcare?  Decide when we stop providing healthcare to old people (they can pay out of pocket) and just give them some morphine as they die of wtv ailment.  You’ll need to know that before any plan works.[/quote]
I'm gonna need numbers on this, or you're just blowing smoke.[/quote]

I'm not the pp you are quoting, but from JAMA:  "In fact, about one quarter of all Medicare spending goes toward care for people during their last year of life." 
https://jamanetwork.com/channels/health-forum/fullarticle/2760146[/quote]
This sounds like the joke that you always find something lost in the last place you look for it. They specifically mention cancer treatment, which can happen at any age[/quote]

And?
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