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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Climate change is not a thing in Florida. The governor fudges the death toll numbers and Federal tax dollars come in and it's all good.[/quote]

You are correct that climate change has not affected the number or severity of hurricanes.  Despite the NYT's attempt to manipulate the numbers by focusing on the numbers since 1980 (which was a lull), hurricane frequency and intensity are not increasing.  The NOAA Director got pounded on for saying this the other day, but he is correct. (Not to mention that our ability to identify hurricanes has increased due to modern satellite technology.)

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-tropical-cyclone-activity

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I think we've all now realized how the EPA can become politicized during Trump's admin.

The impact on hurricanes by global warming is not what you expect, but it does have an impact.

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/how-climate-change-is-fueling-hurricanes-2022-09-20/

[quote]Yes, climate change is making hurricanes wetter, windier and altogether more intense. There is also evidence that it is causing storms to travel more slowly, meaning they can dump more water in one place

If it weren't for the oceans, the planet would be much hotter due to climate change.  But in the last 40 years, the ocean has absorbed about 90% of the warming caused by heat-trapping greenhouse gas emissions. Much of this ocean heat is contained near the water's surface. This additional heat can fuel a storm's intensity and power stronger winds.[/quote]

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/can-we-expect-atlantic-hurricanes-change-over-coming-century-due-global-warming

[quote] This bears repeating: global warming due to increasing greenhouse gases may lead to fewer hurricanes in the Atlantic, [u]although their peak winds are expected to increase a few percent[/u]. The mechanism for fewer Atlantic tropical storms and hurricanes with climate warming in most model projections is not a fully settled issue in climate science.[/quote]

so, while it's not settled theory, there is some concession that global warming will increase the strength of the winds though not the frequency of hurricanes.[/quote]

So, in other words, some scientists have theorized that hurricanes *may* become stronger in the future, but there is not yet any scientific consensus this issue (much less data).  Despite what the NYT and others try to claim.  It is interesting that you try to blame Trump propaganda for actual data on EPA's web site (I guess the Biden Administration hasn't looked to see what's there?).   [/quote]
Well, they [i]are [/i]intensifying faster. [/quote]
+1  even ^PP's own EPA shows that:

[quote]According to the total annual ACE Index, cyclone intensity has risen noticeably over the past 20 years, and eight of the 10 most active years since 1950 have occurred since the mid-1990s (see Figure 2). Relatively high levels of cyclone activity were also seen during the 1950s and 1960s.
The PDI (see Figure 3) shows fluctuating cyclone intensity for most of the mid- to late 20th century, followed by a noticeable increase since 1995 (similar to the ACE Index). These trends are shown with associated variations in sea surface temperature in the tropical North Atlantic for comparison (see Figure 3).[/quote]

This also matches with what I posted from climate.gov and reuters.

But yes, now we have to even question what the EPA says because Trump politicized not only the EPA but also NOAA, too.  At least Biden isn't so free with his sharpie. [/quote]

You do realize that Trump isn’t President anymore, right?  And if you think Trump’s influence permeated below the very top leadership of EPA, you don’t know how federal agencies work. The NOAA Director who pointed this out is a Biden appointee.

It is quite misleading to refer to the last 20 years, because there was a lull in hurricane activity in the 80’s. The current level of activity is quite normal if you look back the last 100 years. Yes, there was a level of high activity in the 50’s, and just about every decade before that, back into the 19th century, when we started keeping records. [/quote]
Did you forget what happened at NOAA when Trump was potus?  Yes, he did manage to permeate his disease to mundane agencies like NOAA.

As all the articles have stated, they have seen an [b]increase in the strength, not frequency [/b]of the hurricanes. [/quote]

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