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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I might get blasted for this. This post is not directed at the OP, but the new CES class in general. 
I was worried that students would have this problem this year because mcps chose to pick student based  on “lottery” methods instead of true merit methods, so the resulting picked students might find the curriculum difficult because they dont “belong” in the program/it’s not a right fit for them. In turn, the program is watered down which eventually leads to a lack of proper magnet education. Which I guess is mcps goal all along. Just my 2 cents.[/quote]

Pfft.  CES has been doing it by lottery for a few years now.  My 6th grader was in CES for 4th and 5th -- she loved it and her class was one of the strongest cohorts her teacher had seen in his 30 years of teaching at a CES.  [/quote]

Not so. This year’s fifth grade was the first class to be admitted by lottery. The previous class - now in 6th - took the shortened COGAT before Covid hit.[/quote]

This year’s sixth graders were not part of the CES lottery. It was the year after they started that CES changed to a lottery. [/quote]

I have a current 7th grader who was in CES via lottery.  No Cogat. [/quote]

That was not lottery. Yes, they stopped using CoGat, but it was based on MAP scores and the final candidates were selected based on criteria, not lottery.[/quote

So much misinformation here. The current sixth graders took a condensed Cogat test in third grade. I have my kid’s results. MCPS also based admission on MAP scores. The Cogat test occurred in January 2020 before Covid hit. With virtual learning 2020-21, MCPS could not offer the Cogat and moved to a lottery. Even though kids were in person last year, MCPS has apparently abandoned the Cogat and continued for a second year to use a lottery. No surprises that kids are struggling.[/quote]

Huh, you are totally right. I forgot about the shortened CoGat. They did use that for the year this year’s 6th graders were selected.[/quote]

Speaking of misinformation, MCPS did not abandon the CogAT. NWEA would not let them administer it remotely during the pandemic. Under the circumstances MCPS decided to use this opportunity to run a (3 year) trial to analyze the impact on admission to removing the additional testing.[/quote]

I don’t even know how they will analyze the impact on admission when they used a 75th percentile (locally normed) cut off one year and an 85th percentile (locally normed) the following. And report card grades from different school years. You have too many variables. They’re not doing a study of removing the Cogat. That is what they say, but the truth is that they wanted to increase representation of certain groups and the Cogat was making it harder to do so because those groups were not scoring well on the Cogat. So they decided to try eliminating it. [/quote]

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