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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Christian Democrats and lots of Republican Christians and other religious are against that too, OP. Atheists don't hold a monopoly on fighting to maintain the separation of church and state.[/quote]

That's true.  And Christians don't believe in any supernatural phenomena other than their own.  But they do believe in their own, and that is a political problem, and a problem for the rest of us who do not believe in it.

[b]I just think we'll be a much better, stronger and smarter country once people have voluntarily, logically, and of their own accord given up reliance on supernatural beliefs.[/b][/quote]

Lenin, Stalin and Mao agree.

Seriously, though, hyperbole like your OP just makes the people you’re concerned about harden their positions. I say this as someone who’s appalled by Trump’s Supreme Court nominees and the end of Roe v. Wade. Instead give a thought to psychology and ease up on the hyperbole. [/quote]

[i]Lenin, Stalin and Mao[/i]?  Who is dealing in hyperbole and propaganda now?

Check my bolded parts in the statement "we'll be a much better, stronger and smarter country [b]once people have voluntarily, logically, and of their own accord given up reliance on supernatural beliefs[/b]."

I believe people are capable of this type of growth, and the fact that non-belief is the fastest growing segment by a multiple supports that belief. They just need to know it is OK with society for them to follow the logic to that position.[/quote]

So the part about not pushing the Trumpies further into their shells just washed over you. [/quote]

Capitulation will only embolden and will have the opposite effect.  I support non-aggressive, calm, factual, logical discussion on these topics, and hopefully people will come to the realization that their beliefs are illogical and de-emphasize them or release them altogether.

We'll be a much better, stronger and smarter country once people have [b]voluntarily, logically, and of their own accord[/b] given up reliance on supernatural beliefs[/quote]

Impossible. Their brains were hardwired to believe since childhood. Also, there is the theory that folks have a religious gene. The best we can hope for is what Pew studies point to and that’s a slow decline of Christianity in America based on, essentially, apathy toward organized religion.[/quote]

Not impossible.  Most non-religious people today were raised in a religion.  Some people who attend religious services do not believe but go for social/cultural reasons.

SOME people may have a "religious gene" but certainly not all, considering the number of people who leave religion.  Religion is taught credulous children.  Some reject it when they get older.[/quote]

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