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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Bicyclists hate having to stop at the end of each block for a stop sign because they think it's too physically tiring to constantly have to stop and start again. That's why they're doing this.

The safety argument (which makes zero sense) is just a fig leaf. [/quote]

Well to be fair, when a cyclist take the lane as they are legally allowed to do, the cars stacked up behind them don't want to stop for the cyclist at each stop sign either.[/quote]

[b]Yeah, next time you're driving behind a bicycle, see how happy you are if the cyclist stops at every stop sign[/b].[/quote]

Pretty sure this has never happened so I guess we'll never know how a driver would respond[/quote]

I have personally done it and I will never do it again. Between the people screaming at me and the cars gunning their engines to illegally pass me, never again.[/quote]

This is super weird argument. So you're saying you shouldnt have to obey a traffic law because a driver "might" scowl at you if you do? I drive and I wish bicyclists would stop at every stop sign. It seems not great for the city life in general for one class of travelers to think they're just completely exempt from traffic laws. [/quote]

I personally think it's safer if everyone does what the other people around are expecting them to do, based on the law. But I will say that pretty often what happens is that I approach a stop sign on my bike while a car is already stopped there or is arriving before I will. I wave at the car to go as I approach the stop sign, while I'm slowing down. Instead, it sits there waiting for me and gestures for me to go. Which just slows down the process of everyone making it through the intersection. And then, yes, often the driver gives me a dirty look for ... I guess expecting them not to yield to me when it's not my right of way? Not sure. [/quote]

I drive and my main problem with cyclists is how unpredictable they are. You have no idea what they're going to do or which traffic law they're going to decide to follow. I never feel that way about other drivers. Sure, some of them do stupid things but in general drivers obey the law and can be counted on obeying the law and that makes car traffic generally pretty predictable. This proposal by the city council will just make bicycle traffic that must more unpredictable (partly because who knows what an "open intersection" or whatever stupid terminology they're using even means).  I don't get how that helps anyone. [/quote]

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