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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Mature enough to be a parent, but not mature enough to get an abortion....
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https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/16/parentless-teen-cant-have-an-abortion-under-state-parental-consent-law-00052211
Florida court says teen isn't mature enough to get an abortion
The teen, identified only as Jane Doe 22-B, has no parents.
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— A Florida court of appeal this week upheld a decision stating a 16-year-old teen could not get an abortion because she lacked the maturity to make such a decision, even after the parentless teen said she was not ready to have a child and is still in school.

An opinion released Monday by the Florida 1st District Court of Appeal upheld an earlier decision by a state court judge. That judge was not convinced the teen had demonstrated the maturity to choose to get an abortion. The teen, identified only as Jane Doe 22-B, has no parents but is in the care of Florida’s child welfare agency and has a guardian. She is about 10 weeks pregnant and currently resides with a relative.

“The minor states that she is sufficiently mature to make the decision, saying she ‘is not ready to have a baby,’ she doesn’t have a job, she is ‘still in school,’” the Monday order states. “And the father is unable to assist her.”

Florida abortion law requires parents to consent before a minor can have an abortion. But underage teens can also circumvent the consent requirement by asking for a waiver from a state circuit court judge. According to the appeal court’s decision, the teen’s guardian supports the teen’s wish to get an abortion.
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Is she being forced to raise the child? Giving birth doesn’t make you a parent.[/quote]

She’s being forced to carry a pregnancy that she doesn’t want. 
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You obviously were not forced to read the entire article. [/quote]

She was prevented from getting an abortion on her time table. She’s carrying a pregnancy that she does not want.

She was given more obstacles to obtain medical care. 
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She was given more time, not obstacles, to not make a rash decision because when has been dithering with her decision. You know that. [/quote]

No, the court did not give her more time.  The trial court was willing to do that, but the appellate court refused to remand for further consideration.  She was 10 weeks pregnant a week ago when the lower court issued its order, so she’s now 11 weeks.  By court rules, it will be at least two more weeks before the appellate court order becomes final, at which point she will be 13 weeks pregnant.  That will leave her less than two weeks to file a new petition, have it granted (if it would even be considered given that the court already ruled on her prior petition), and then schedule and obtain an abortion.

Realistically, that’s not going to happen.  She will have to sneak out of state for the abortion or will be forced to continue the pregnancy.[/quote]

One correction to the above, the trial court order was without prejudice, so the court probably would consider a new petition once the appellate order becomes final.  But that still leaves her wi the a very limited time frame, and having to hope she draws a judge who will see the case differently.  The dissent in the appellate case makes clear the extent to which the trial court acknowledged she had valid grounds for seeking the abortion and seemed mature enough to make the decision, and he was just using the death of her friend as road block to avoid granting the petition.

https://www.1dca.org/content/download/845549/opinion/222476_DC05_08152022_170017_i.pdf[/quote]

Wow. I’m a PP (who’s post defending the judge was deleted) and didn’t think of that timeline. Thought he was giving her the gift of time to mull it over. But  you're right and I’m not even being sarcastic. Mark this in the history books another poster changed someone’s mind! Really messed up when you put it like that. Poor girl in a horrid position. [/quote]

There is no gift of time.  He gave her another gift of trauma.  [/quote]

+1 yup. He didn’t outright say no, just punted a 16 yo orphan with a time sensitive matter back through a slow system.  Why is it that right wingers abhor big govt making decisions about personal matters except when it comes to women’s bodies?[/quote]

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