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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You seem to have an anxiety issue[/quote]

I do.  Hence why I don’t want to send a removal memo and why I asked if someone else could do this?  I realize what this would do to my reputation but my mental health is more important right now.  I haven’t slept in 3 days thinking about this issue.[/quote]

Is your supervisor forcing you to fire this person? I saw this happening twice at my agency. The managers lost their jobs / got demoted, nothing happened to the official director,  and the employees got money to settle. [/quote]

At this point, I don't care if I get demoted.  I can't really think straight about this situation anymore.  I don't know what's right and I just want out of this decision-making process.[/quote]

Honestly you should get demoted. Being a mid-level Fed manager does not seem worth it to me. [/quote]

I agree. Middle management is something you have to want, not just take to be promoted.

OP - if you have trouble with this, you need to assess your overall performance as a manager. I don’t say that to be a jerk. Many middle managers are poor at making decisions and worry too much about themselves instead of their Staff. Your job is partly to protect the team. You have someone on your team making it harder for everyone else and wasting taxpayer money. It’s your job to fix it. Go do your job. This person is likely to go to the Union (if you have one) or sue, then make 100% certain you have a real case for dismissal. HR will help work it out. Get therapy, if needed. I saw an EAP counselor for anxiety I had working with a coworker and it was an excellent support service that really helped me. [/quote]

I guess I feel like if I fire this individual that I will be looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life and it’s all for what.  To make management happy?[/quote]

Is this person really that unstable?

It’s not to make management happy. It’s for the reasons I outlined above. To take the toxicity out of your group, protect the workload of those who work for you other than this person, to get a job for the viable candidate likely waiting to do good work in a Government organization, and to refrain from wasting Federal dollars for this underperforming person. This is a management skill. The fact that you don’t see any benefit to your team and only see consequences for yourself is a very bad indicator of your management style.[/quote]

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