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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can't stand Friedman, but good. Seeing the excuses made for and the willful inability to call dysfunction for what it is as it relates to Ukraine's power elite has been tiresome. They're renowned for venality to the point that I consider it to be an aspect of their national character. Russia is in heel with them on that aspect of their political life... but LOL at any idea that Ukraine doesn't have massive internal structural problems. Hauling in NGO's to shoehorn "democracy" into their public life isn't going to fix these corrupt impulses and attitudes, either.[/quote]

We've supported worse in proxy wars. As long as they're killing Russians, there is no reason not to arm them [/quote]

This all damn day.[/quote]

Us policy makers are concerned that the eu could fracture over this.

Let’s revisit in feb 2023.

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EU has itself to blame, for continuing its dependence on Russian gas.  Putin is like a mobster running a protection racket.[/quote]

Yes - they do. Eu is to blame.

American policy makers though do not want to see massive EU unrest.

It affects American interests even if you don’t care about the Europeans

There is a credible argument to be made to give Ukraine up to preserve western European political economy but open up a covert war against Russian spies and diplomats across the the world.

I would lift all sanctions on Russia, tell VZ to make a new country around Kyiv/Lviv, then break the church committee laws and authorize cia program to tactically kill 50-100  Russian spies/oligarch families over the next 24 months.

Better to open up a covert war and pay a smaller price (I know some of our spies and diplomats would get hit in return) in the grand scheme of things.

I don’t think people understand how close western Europe is to melt down.

Mi6/cia can get into a kinetic tit-4-tat which lets Russians and anglos fight without major countries breaking.

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This may be the nuttiest thing I’ve read here.[/quote]

Most of their posts are out there like this. It’s the “Anglos” poster.[/quote]

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