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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Context matters. Instead of simply reading the article go to the primary source. 
Watch the speech. It was funny, self deprecating and intelligent regardless of one’s political views. 
Understanding your adversary’s viewpoint and arguments is invaluable. 
Such a lack of intellectual curiosity on DCUM. [/quote]

Intellectual curiosity for this

"“It is hard to convince people that religious liberty is worth defending if they don’t think that religion is a good thing that deserves protection,” Alito told the audience. “The challenge for those who want to protect religious liberty in the United States, Europe, and other similar places is to convince people who are not religious that religious liberty is [b]worth special protection.[/b] That will not be easy to do.”

SPECIAL PROTECTION. No, thats been done before. Christians, Muslims, etc. They can do their thing but no, I am not interested in giving religions special protection. That means that those with religion are protected more than those without. Religion needs less power not more and history has shown us time and time again that power combined with religion is a dangerous thing for most people. [/quote]

Reading is fundamental. 
He didn't say giving "religion" special protection.  
He said give "religious liberty" special protection.  And, that is exactly what this country was founded on.  Remember the pilgrims?
People should be free to worship as they wish.  [/quote]

In what way does Dobbs advance religious liberty?

The “joke” was gross because he’s making fun of foreign leaders for being worried about reproductive rights and the health of American women of childbearing age. That’s only a “joke” if you’re a psychopath. [/quote]

You are guilty of taking soundbites out of context.

His whole speech was about religious freedom.  That was the topic.  It was not in reference to Roe or any other decision.

Read more here:

https://law.nd.edu/news-events/news/2022-religious-liberty-summit-rome-justice-samuel-alito-keynote/

And, so you know.... he was mocking leaders of OTHER nations for getting their knickers in a bunch about decisions made in the US.  [/quote]

You know why leaders of other nations are getting their knickers in a bunch about decisions made in the US? Because it will likely affect women in other countries too. American women are already travelling to Mexico for abortions. Canada might be next. Doctors in Europe are sending abortion pills to women in states such as Texas. Maybe their lives and those of their families might be at risk. American pro-lifers are pumping money into the UK to try and influence lawmakers and restrict British women's right to choose. And look at political decisions not to fund reproductive care in other countries where abortion is mentioned.

This is why it is important to other countries. [/quote]

It was telling how that poster wrote “OTHER” nations, as if it’s absurd these lesser countries would weigh in.

Alito seems like pithy frightened little man. You see the same sort of belligerence out of the William Barr. Another zealot who was happy to further Catholicism by any means necessary. This country is full of them. It’s fking gross.[/quote]

This and they are too interested in their own egos to realize they are turning people away from religion. [/quote]

Exactly. I am the grandchild of Irish grandparents. Each generation of our family is less religious than the previous generation, even those that have stayed in Ireland. My grandfather went to a school that was run by the Christian Brothers. His childhood was blighted by beatings and bullying, and he used the same tactics on his children (my mother and her siblings) and wife (my grandmother). There were several instances in our family of children being raised in orphanages and then shipped off to Australia. My grandfather's cousin was sent to Australia when he was a young boy and was told that he was an orphan. He only found out when he was in his 60s that he had a huge family back in Ireland. It's no wonder that people are turning against the Catholic church. So many years of abuse and lies. [/quote]

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