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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The very top kids at my child's high school (valedictorian, salutatorian and a couple others) got into Ivy-level colleges. The kids (like my DD), who would have had a good shot at some of these schools even 5 years ago, didn't have a chance, and every one is going to a second-tier college or in-state school because of cost.

The top-ranked schools attract a lot of hyper-qualified applicants, so they can pick whomever they want from their applicant pool. These days you need a hook, a 4.0 and at least 1550 on your SAT to even be considered at the top schools.

Kids who aren't interested in working that hard in high school should be realistic about college admissions, even if they are extremely bright. Sure, they'd do fine at Harvard and Yale, but without stats, they don't have the admissions ticket, unless they are a top athlete or have some other unique skill or talent.

I know two superb athletes who went to Princeton and Harvard who are not at the top of their classes academically. But their athletic skill got them admitted. [/quote]

Yes agree with this, and maybe this is part of what you are saying, but now the unhooked kids (which is really most kids) with 4.0s and 1550 SATs are not even candidates for colleges a step down from ivies. [/quote]

Private school parent.  There is no one with a 4.0 at my kid’s school but I thought most kids with “high stats” got into top 25-ish type places, regardless of hook.  Ivies seem to be reserved for cum laude society and kids don’t have a plethora of choices but it seems like most kids get at least into somewhere where they are happy.[/quote]

I have a rising senior in public school with close to a 4.0uw, 4.7w and 1560 SAT. We’ve been told by his school counselor and private college counselor that T20 colleges are all extremely high reaches for him, to the point that they suggest he focus on the next rung “down” (eg, Wake Forest instead of Emory; Case Western instead of WUSTL). [/quote]

I hate to say it, but that's the difference in a kid coming from a public school high school, versus comparable stats at a private/ independent school.[/quote]

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