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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But lower stats kids did get in. That’s why we know stats are not relevant to VT.[/quote] Obviously, those "lower stats" kids had things your kid did not. You have no idea what they brought to the table - what kinds of EC, leadership, commitments outside of school, interests, etc. No idea whatsoever. You also have no idea the rigor of their classes, etc. In short, you simply don't know, though you obviously think you have all the answers. [/quote] One thing is for certain - VT is not closely examining or carefully scrutinizing each of its 45,000 applications. [/quote] They DO read the essays, which they deem "very important." [/quote] I'm sure the essays are read, but there's not enough time and admissions staff to give all of them THAT close a look. Some applications are weeded out early to focus on others. [/quote] Unless you are an adcom, you have no way of saying what happens. If it was so easy, why do we wait weeks and weeks to hear back from some of these schools?[/quote] Many schools hire temporary staff to read through them and rank order them. My neighbor did this for UC Berkeley.[/quote] No school is rank ordering 45,000 applications (e.g. that kid'e application is ranked 36, 264). [/quote] Are you saying I'm a liar? Honest to God, my neighbor did this. Unless you are saying they have a cut off and only read the ones above that, which he did not tell me, but I could imagine. I believe they read their stack and presented the ones they felt were meritorious. I did not literally mean they rank 45,000 kids. My wording was imprecise.[/quote] NP: I am friends with an admissions officer that an Ivy and T20 and I have served on an enrollment management/admissions committee as a faculty member at a large public university. From my experience and what I have learned from my friends, some applications are not read by admissions officers/temporary staff. The enrollment management software does the first cull. Some of the reasons include incomplete applications (e.g., recommendation letters missing) and the applicant doesn't meet the minimum academic standards. For example, my university, pre-Covid, eliminated applications that didn't meet the College and Career Readiness Benchmark SAT scores. We also have a minimum HS unweighted GPA that is different for transfer students from 4-year and 2-year colleges. [/quote] PP again: Sorry, should say two admissions officers.[/quote]
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