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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Interesting article:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickhess/2022/06/13/pulling-back-the-veil-on-college-admissions/?sh=35bfd2283bc6

"Indeed, Goldstein says that the only populations with non-trivial odds of admission at these colleges are athletes, legacies, children of faculty or donors, certain racial minorities, first generation college students, students from upscale private schools, and [b]those whose academic records put them in the top one percent of applicants.[/b] About half of all admitted students belong to one of those preferred groups.

Most everyone else (for whom the acceptance rate is about 2%) might be better off saving their admissions fees."[/quote]

I disagree with the bolded.  It should be "those whose academic records put them in the top one percent of one percent of applicants.".  Academics will help with not getting cut but after that all the social engineering BS kicks in to eliminate a lot of the Asian and White kids with no strings.  [/quote]

And that is a good thing, honestly.  I would not want my kid attending school with only white/asian kids.  I (and my kids) want diversity.  That means ethnic diversity, social diversity, socioeconomic diversity, major diversity, etc.  Makes the world a more exciting place.  We recognize that we are privileged and not everyone has those advantages in life.

Similarly, I recognize that my DD had an advantage applying to college as a STEM/Engineering major.  She probably got acceptances places where the "similar male" did not, simply because most good engineering programs are looking to improve M/F ratio.  So that means more females will get acceptances than males, in hopes of yielding closer to 50/50.  It also means she likely got additional merit at several schools simply by being a female.  That's life and it's a good thing as we work towards equity for everyone on many levels.

Yes, being a white or asian, upper middle class/rich male has some disadvantages in the college process.  But that kid has had so many advantages in life in their 18 years simply because of that.  I for one want to help URM and first gen kids find their way to a great college and onto doing amazing things in life.  That benefits society as a whole. And I wouldn't want my kid to attend a university made up of 100% white/asian, rich kids---that would be depressing and boring.

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Stop. Men also have advantages in other ways. At the more elite colleges, where fewer men apply, they have an advantage for the reasons you state - so that the college can "shape" their incoming class to be diverse. That's a fact - google it. Read a book.

And yes, I agree, diversity is a good thing. But, I was first gen, poor family, etc. etc. I've worked hard to made a good living (not rich) and give my child the things I didn't have. And now you're saying that DC is "privileged enough" so tough tomatoes if you don't get into a good college (however one defines that)? [/quote]

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