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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In about third grade, mine came home asking about something that turned out to be square roots (lots of weird scratchings and awkward explanations went into figuring THAT out!).

They’ll always hit something totally unfamiliar before their test ends. That’s the entire point of it: it keeps getting progressively harder, until it hits a level where your kid misses more than 50% of the questions. [/quote]

Yes! My kid is great at math but I guess we never taught her to tell time because on her first MAP she ended up getting a million questions about clocks…she was annoyed at us. [/quote]

Yep. MAP is not a Math proficiency test. It’s purely a test of what a student has been exposed to. If your first grader answered every 1st grade level correctly but nothing else, they wouldn’t come close to the top percentiles. For that, you need to teach how to tell time on a clock, how to count money and coins, how to multiply and divide, etc. [/quote]
The kid has to actually solve problems. That sounds like proficiency.[/quote]

Sure - maybe I should have been more clear and said that it's not simply a "grade level" proficiency test. But my point stands - your first grader is not going to score at the top of the test unless you teach them what a quadrilateral is, how to identify an isosceles triangle, what the difference between obtuse and acute angles are, etc. At first grade, they are merely expected to be able to add and subtract per the MCPS curriculum. One could be quite proficient at that, but would yield a pretty pedestrian score. [/quote]

I'm a NP and I don't know... You may very well be right and I've never taken the MAP myself, but I had inferred that above grade level, the test is easier if you have been directly instructed/exposed to certain concepts... but that if a child is bright, many of the problems can sort of be deciphered or good educated guesses made without having had previous exposure. [/quote]

I’m the PP whose kid was stumped by the square root questions. If you don’t even know what the symbol means, it’s pretty hard to make an educated guess. Same for stuff like sine and cosine later on.

Mine often ended up getting far enough that she saw stuff she’d never encountered before, but still scored in the low-90th percentiles because she was able to make those educated guesses about harder or more complex versions of concepts she already knew (think three-digit addition when the current curriculum only covers single-digit). But she’d never shown much interest in math enrichment outside of school (more of a reader), so we didn’t do anything to introduce those extremely advanced concepts that might have gotten her to the high-90s. [/quote]

My youngest who is a first grader somehow taught themselves square roots and multiplication. It's possible they learn this from their older sibling. I actually try to discourage it but it makes them want to do it even more. I'm not kidding. I even caught them doing 5th grade Splash Math yesterday after I asked them to stick with 2nd grade. My point is some kids are determined and do this on their own.[/quote]
Why on earth would you discourage it?  [/quote]

Because I feel they need to master other things before rushing into things they don't really need to know yet.[/quote]
They'll master the other stuff just fine.

It's personal: I starting to learn algebra in 3rd grade by asking my older brother what he was doing - we did homework together at the dining room table. It made other math make more sense. I'm still furious at my 5th grade teacher taking my work away when I worked ahead. Don't stifle a questing mind![/quote]

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