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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You're expecting an awful lot out of people who aren't being paid a livable wage....[/quote] my friends 17yo daughter worked there and made $15 an hour BEFORE tips. Thats not bad money. [/quote]

$15 / hour x 30 hours* x 50 weeks is $22500 a year. Can you live here on $22500? Would you be tidy and cheerful if you did? On your feet, handling food, and dealing with the public?

*Lots of baristas don't get scheduled for 30 hours/week, I'm being generous to Starbucks here. And hardly anybody tips.

[b]There is a tremendous labor shortage right now. People who are great in customer facing positions can do better, and they have.[/b] [/quote]

I thought Starbucks was on the upper end of the service industry? If there are 380k Starbucks baristas in the US, where did say... 100k of them segue to? 100k loss is probably on the low side. And the new replacements are bad, so even would-be new Starbucks baristas are avoiding the place to work... where instead?[/quote]

I don't know if you're aware but about 1 million Americans have died of covid in the last 2 years.  Some of them were Starbucks workers, and some of them held better jobs that former Starbucks workers now hold.

Another PP tried to spin Starbucks jobs as "designed for" teens, second gigs or retirees.  I don't agree that's naturally the case (why shouldn't you be able to support a family by being a full time barista?) but, if that's who was working those jobs, and they're still alive, then there are some obvious alternative occupations like school, being retired, different second gigs, or switching to one full time gig.  Pre-covid it might have been a fun way to earn money but people who had other options, even non-paying options, decided it wasn't worth the risk.[/quote]

So I'm not a big Starbucks person and prefer independent coffee shops and I think OP is expecting too much, but to be fair to them as a corporation, I think Starbucks has always been one of the few big low bar to entry places that has offered things like healthcare and tuition reimbursement to their full time employees in a job type where that is not the norm. They have not assumed everyone is a teen working for prom dress cash. Not saying they're virtuous, but they've been ahead of the low bar curve on not being explicitly exploitative. [/quote]
+1 When I got my first “real job” after college making $25K a year, into a house with four other roommates, one of those roommates was in grad school and working at Starbucks part time which gave her health insurance, which was incredible at the time (mid-1990s.)
I would also like to add that while Starbucks is making national news for unionizing workers at a record clip, that has nothing to do with OP’s post as none of the unionized Starbucks are anywhere near here.[/quote]

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