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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's common knowledge that regular POC do not want the police defunded in their communities. It's only richer areas with white progressive voters/politicians that actually attempt to defund the police. They almost always ignore pleas from the POC community to increase police presence in their community and schools as well.[/quote]

I see Black activists make sweeping statements regarding the culture of ‘disruption’. Encouraging gullible, social justice minded White people to be onboard as an ally or be the enemy.

This pushes the movement or agenda forward. But when one of those ideas backfires or becomes a liability, it’s because of the ‘woke’ White people and Black people don’t want that thing at all.

The ‘regular’ black people keep quiet about it, even if they disagree because they would not want the bootlicker label. They speak up when it’s time to blame the White people.

People get confused, then you get posts like this about the irony of it.

Pretty genius actually.

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Black politicians in PG do not talk about defunding the police while making excuses for criminals on Twitter such as claiming people jack cars because it's cold outside. That's a white, progressive act in DC, MC, and Nova.[/quote]

+1 Well said. As a longtime PG resident, there is a widely held view that we need police to prevent crime waves during the early 2000s without them killing our young boys and girls.[/quote]

+1. White and not in PG, but I also prefer police to do their job without killing black boys and girls. It’s not just racial justice, it’s a practical matter -  it gets very expensive paying out settlements for all those little dead boys and girls. I’d rather spend that money on something more productive, like education, supportive housing, or diversion programs for at risk youth.

If the cops have so much money they can send all their people to that crap “shoot first” training, or stock up on military grade riot equipment more suitable for the streets of Afghanistan or war-torn Ukraine than a suburban environment,  then a budget adjustment is certainly in order. [/quote]

I think we can all agree that no one wants cops to accidentally kill kids of any race. But cops aren't the enemy and making them the enemy is only increasing crime.  If you are so enthusiastic about keeping kids alive, go volunteer or something, because making this into policy has been disastrous.  No one- black, white or otherwise, was happy when a kid got shot in a MoCo HS but all the SROs had been removed from schools.   [/quote]

I mean apparently we can't agree on that or else cops wouldn't kill so many people.  Wanting cops to be better trained isn't making them the enemy.  [/quote]

Your first sentence negates your second. Police killed 1,055 people last year in a nation of over 300 million. While that is still unfortunate, it doesn’t warrant your “so many.” Most of those were deemed justified because, unfortunately, sometimes officers are left with no other choice. If we continue to use language that blankety suggests police are bad, then yes, we are viewing them as the enemy. Also, departments are already responding by dramatically evaluating training and hiring methods. At what point can we support their efforts instead of hinder them?[/quote]

Killing 1000 people is many to me so I am going to stick with that wording. You are welcome to disagree[/quote]

Should officers have the right to defend themselves? What about the many in that 1,000 dead who were actively shooting at police? Do you agree that police should have the ability to defend themselves when somebody else puts them in mortal danger? If you don’t, then you’re right. We will have to disagree with each other.[/quote]

Who decides what is “justified”? The same people doing the shooting. Cops fight accountability at every step, and they ruthlessly purge anyone from their ranks who doesn’t go along to get along. Policing in America has some real problems. If one person died needlessly at the hands of the police it’s one person too many. The people saying “oh it’s only 1,000 people dead” and “oh, they deserved to die anyway” would be singing a different tune if it was their kid hit by a stray bullet or killed in a reckless chase or smothered to death for taking too long to leave a movie theater. [/quote]

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