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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Put these kids in the vocation track.  Their life would be much better and have marketable skills than graduating with a worthless degree and working for $15/hr in retail or hospitality.  Or even worst getting into trouble and in jail[/quote]

How is that equitable?   :lol: [/quote]

How is it not?[/quote]

It’s incredibly paternalistic.

This is the land of second chances[/quote]

What 2nd chances does a kid have in education if they graduate from high school reading at a 5th grade level at best and math even worst?  That’s what happens when you socially promote.

Instead encourage going vocation in electrical or plumbing and that kid can make close to 6 figures and propel himself into the middle class and out of property.[/quote]

This is not a reasonable solution for the students who don't show up and are not willing to put in the work. You aren't going to get hired as a plumber or electrician or keep your job very long if you don't even bother to come in.

I agree there needs to be intensive early intervention for more children who are not mastering material in early grades. I think a lot of people see that as tracking though. [/quote]

Sure those kids won’t keep jobs but there are also kids who would learn the trade and make something out of themselves.

My roommate from college and her husband are both are college educated.  School was not for their older son, and he went vocational and then apprenticed as a welder.  He likes it, enjoys it, and is doing well as a productive member of society.

These trades really need people and jobs are there.[/quote]

There is a reason why people would prefer sit-down, indoor jobs with the potential for WFH, and those jobs can be done until retirement age.[/quote]

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