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[quote=Anonymous]In addition to the separate lists for donors and “development cases,” note that most (all?) “need blind” schools are not need blind for the wait list. This was raised in the antitrust suit against the 16 schools that are part of the “568 President’s Group.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/us/financial-aid-lawsuit-colleges.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/yale-georgetown-other-top-schools-illegally-collude-to-limit-student-financial-aid-lawsuit-alleges-11641829659

Also note that George Washington was caught violating their supposed “need blind” policy a few years ago.  After the admissions office made their decisions re: admits vs. waitlist vs. rejects on a “need blind” basis, the higher ups would shuffle the list to move full pay kids from the wait list up the admitted list and move the kids with need to the wait list. After the practice was outed, they changed the description of their policy to “need aware.”

As someone else pointed out, it is telling that the number of full pay vs. scholarship students stays remarkably consistent at these “need blind” schools over the years.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/10/22/george-washington-u-admits-it-incorrectly-told-applicants-it-was-need-blind

https://www.gwhatchet.com/2013/10/21/gw-misrepresented-admissions-and-financial-aid-policy-for-years/

https://www.propublica.org/article/george-washington-university-has-for-years-claimed-to-be-need-blind.-its-no

“We have our internal preliminary decision of admit or waitlist or deny, and then we run the numbers and then we go, ‘Okay, we have to do a little bit of shuffling here,’” Koehler said. She said the decision only impacts students who are not among GW’s top applicants.

But for hundreds of students each year, those second-round decisions turn an acceptance into an almost-certain rejection. In 2012, less than 1 percent of students offered a spot on the waitlist got into GW.

Several admissions and financial aid experts said GW’s admissions policy should not have been characterized as need-blind.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity, called GW’s past claims “dishonest.”

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