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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP doesn't seem to have studied any history. He/she also almost certainly has not read anything Jordan Peterson has written beyond quotes in news articles or soundbites in short videos.

Anyway, my recommendation for the OP is to find a place with the type of government and social structure that he/she thinks is more conducive to a propsperous/healthy/optimistic future, and go experience it for 3 to 6 months.

Perspective is a wonderful thing. [/quote]

I have read Jordan Peterson with an open mind, and Jung as well. I think JP's self-help ideas can work only to the extent your surroundings are under your control. As an individual, I do take a lot of personal steps outlined in 12 rules, but my personal betterment efforts stop where the lack of cooperation of others begins. And I don't buy his emphasis on leaning on religion.

It doesn't matter where I live and it's not like everyone gets to pick and choose what government they live under. We all share the same dying planet. [/quote]

Are you the OP? I don't see how you can follow (some?) of the 12 rules for life but think Jordan Peterson wants to be the dad for lonely conservative men. Also, none of the 12 rules for life requires cooperation from others - they are recommendations on how to conduct yourself, how to regulate your own behavior to become a more productive and mentally healthy/strong individual. If you think your personal betterment is limited by the cooperation of others, then you have not read the book at all.

I'm an atheist and don't really care what the religious viewpoint of Jordan Peterson is. Besides, Peterson mainly references religion to explain his basis for morality and spiritual rituals. He does not at all argue that someone has to believe in a specific religion. The importance of spiritual reflection, meditation, and contemplation is something I engage in, even though I'm an atheist. It's an important exercise for grounding my frame of mind every once in a while.

Lastly, you live in the frigging United States of America, you can choose to go anywhere you want and no one will stop you. There are extreme left and right communities, and every shade in between, that you can enjoy to your heart's content.[/quote]

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