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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This law has a carve out for rape incest and health of the mother… that’s all well and good. When do you find out if your fetus has downs? There are too many issues that can develop later in a pregnancy that can’t be addressed with a 20 week ban. 
That’s why it should be between a woman and her health care provider. 
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Aborting babies with downs = eugenics; be careful what you’re actually promoting. [/quote]

Are you going to be the one caring for such a child? No? Then not your business or your mental anguish to deal with for the rest of your life.[/quote]

Well if I had one then yes. But I’m permanently physically disabled from birth. In today’s world, mothers who find out they are carrying my disease are actively encouraged to abort. I live a very fulfilling life today. I’m married, with children, have graduate degrees, employed, have great friends, volunteer in my community. I am pro-choice.

However, promoting the ability to abort your downs baby is horrible and eugenic. And if you’re not familiar with the eugenic movement and how it is still widely acceptable in 2022 to treat the disabled as having less than lives, rationing their care, considering them a burden, promoting their removal from society then SHAME ON YOU! You’re disgusting!

I’m glad some posters are so ok with eugenics. I think every woman should have a choice but I don’t think we should be celebrating the eugenic movement of aborting babies with any perceived disability. This is a dangerous road to go down.

Thanks for reminding me how cr@pay the world still views me. As if I needed a reminder but thanks anyway. [/quote]
No one is “encouraging” anyone to abort. Doctors sharing facts and options is not “encouraging.”

There is no eugenics movement. I actually had several family members sterilized in the US’s eugenics phase. Don’t be flippant about what was taken from my family members.

I agree with people with disabilities having greater visibility, access and rights and women deserve to make their own reproductive decisions. That’s why I support the Democratic Party. [/quote]

When I was born the state tried twice to remove me from my parents and gave me placed in an institution.  When my parents refused both times the state then pushed to have me sterilized as the “right thing to do. This was 1974.

Don’t lecture me on what eugenics is. The eugenics movement and ableism is far more than the state forcing sterilizations and your statements show a real lack of knowledge which is so. dangerous. Educate yourself. Here is the simple wiki definition:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Perhaps watching PBS American experience eugenics might educate you.

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But I’m sure you wished you were aborted instead, right?

(PP, you are 100% right about the evils of eugenics. What you and others endured at the hands of the state is chilling. My aunt was a victim of the CVTC in the 60’s) [/quote]

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