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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]#1 US Women's fencer in country and current senior at Potomac, committed/admitted to Princeton. If he is great, it’s a great way in. [/quote] #1 Junior (U20) women’s epee fencer in the country is a senior at Potomac and is going to Princeton #1 Junior (U20) women’s saber fencer in the country (and in the world) is a senior at NCS and is going to Princeton # 1 Junior (U20) women’s foil fencer in the country is a freshman at Princeton [/quote] Again, not sure what the point of this post may be. I get it...if you are the #1 in the country/world at anything then you can get into a top school. If you were to take the #1 rated HS football quarterback (or let's just take the best HS quarterback with a 4.0 GPA who I bet is still a D1 power conference recruit) and the Princeton coach honestly believed he wanted to go to Princeton (and wouldn't bolt after the first year in the transfer portal or that he was otherwise wasting his time recruiting him)...then he would get in to Princeton as well, especially in the test optional environment. Just so happens, these candidates want to play in the NFL so they pick Stanford (obviously the Holy Grail in terms of possibly an NFL platform and a top school), or Michigan, or Alabama, or OSU...you know the names. Just so happens, there is no professional outlet for fencing where you can make big $$$s...if there was, then the kids above would go fence at some D1 program. [/quote] This is a poster who does not know anything about fencing at the college level. The reality is that the top fencing programs in the country (Princeton, Harvard, Columbia, and Notre Dame) ARE Div 1 AND are highly ranked academic schools. Also, the schools that are one step down in terms of fencing are also highly ranked academic schools (Brown, Cornell, Duke, Northwestern, Saint Johns, Stanford, University of Pennsylvania, and Yale). So nationally ranked fencers have it both ways, they can go to a highly ranked school AND train/compete at the highest college level and compete in Div I programs. There probably is no other sport where there is such a tight correlation between academic rankings and being at a Div I level. [/quote] You actually are moving away from the main point. This thread is about using sports to gain entry to a top school. Fencing was thrown out as an avenue to do so, which implied that somehow the competition for entry is lower because fencing is a niche sport (which of course is not true). Another poster then indicated that fencing is a great way in...all you have to do is become the #1 ranked fencer in the US. It was then correctly pointed out that if you are the #1 ranked person in anything you are probably nearly guaranteed entry. This was never about pursuing your sport at the highest level in college and going to a top school. This was about pursuing sports to get Ivy-league entry. Just so happens, the Ivies are also nationally ranked in soccer, lacrosse, crew and the New England ones (Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth) in hockey. Usually one Ivy emerges as the dominant Ivy school in basketball and sneaks into the top 25 rankings. Newsflash...all those sports recruit more athletes then fencing. All the Ivy leagues recruit for football which is Division III...football needs to recruit more players than most of these other sports combined. You can be the #4,000 ranked football player and get recruited to Princeton. However, unlike football, I doubt anyone is telling the #1 ranked fencer to not take the SAT/ACT because the school is now test optional and why stain your 4.0 (taking no APs or any honors courses) with a 1000 SAT score...maybe they would, but somehow I doubt it. [/quote]
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