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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hit home for me too, OP. When I had my last kid, I had my tubes removed for this very reason. I have plenty of fertile years left, and I just couldn’t chance an oopsie pregnancy given the state of things.

As someone whose family members are going to need living organ donations, though, I really do look forward to the legal possibilities of a post-Roe world. If the state can force a woman to donate her heart, uterus and kidneys for 9 months to save a life, it can also force some pro-lifer to donate an O-Neg kidney or at least their blood to save lives. And if children and fetuses are now public goods, that’s all the ground we need to start rescuing children from their religious wacknut parents. If the Constitution doesn’t expressly provide a right to decide your own family, it certainly doesn’t provide a right to homeschool.

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How is forcing you to not kill a life (with kidneys and heart and brain) the same as forcing you to remove one of your kidneys? I’m pro choice (up to a certain point) but this makes no sense. 
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It’s giving up part of your body, perhaps against your will, for the benefit of another.[/quote]

What part are you giving up in the fetus in womb scenario? [/quote]

And this is why people are saying this is being done to women by men.

What part are you giving up?  On this board alone in the last few months we have had women have strokes during delivery, women with permanent nerve damage, women who almost died and if you read the newspapers (particularly in Mississippi) women who died. That’s for *wanted* children. You believe women should be sentenced to death or lifelong incapacity over children they do not want to (or medically should not) carry? [/quote]

+1. I don’t understand why these anti-abortion people think the fetus just grows on its own or in God’s magic juice in the magical womb, and all it needs to survive from conception is God’s grace and mom leaving it alone. A womb is an organ that creates a placenta by which the mothers body filters, sustains, and grows the fetus at incredible expense to itself.  In the old days, the old ladies would say Gain a Baby, Loose a Tooth. That’s how dramatic the impact of a pregnancy could be. If you survived, you might suffer bone loss or disease so bad you could literally lose a completely different part of your body. The impacts on the reproductive parts are more obvious - fistulas, incontinence, extreme tearing. Add in diastasis recti for the really unlucky ladies. Head on over to the postpartum board for a bit and tell me that a mom doesn’t give up any part of her to sustain a fetus. Ironically, she will have more autonomy  over what happens to her corpse after she died from that pregnancy than she will during it post-Roe.

And over here, the same goons protesting abortion clinics can’t be bothered to roll up their sleeves to donate some blood or marrow to save newborns with cancer. That same newborn that was so important the law would force its mom to bear it at the expense of her own life, just to see it die because some selfish asshole couldn’t be bothered to sit in the Red Cross chair for 20 minutes and give the medical equivalent of a ponytail donation. Or the religious butters that insist on burying their corpses while their organs could have saved 20 people.

If there is no Constitutional right to be free of an unwanted pregnancy, there is no Constitutional right to not be deprived of spare body parts while dead or alive. The Constitution allows prison slavery for Christ sakes. Your religious beliefs will not spare you from an equally applicable law made in the name of a compelling state interest.

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They don’t think that. They know it is a huge burden. They know it kills women. They know our maternal mortality rate is terrifying and that Black women in particular die at alarming rates.

They also know having children is one of the surest ways to doom a woman’s financial future. Poor people don’t donate to political campaigns.

These things to them are features, not bugs.[/quote]

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