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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is little to no correlation between SAT scores and performance in college.  High school grades are highly predictive of grades in college.  What SAT scores ARE correlated with is family SES.  Wealthier families can pay for tutoring and counseling.  So schools use tests as a way to screen for who can pay and who might need financial aid.  They can assert that they are need blind, but as long as they are using SAT scores, they are including the likely ability to be full pay as part of their selection criteria.[/quote]

Please provide a source to support your assertion.  Otherwise, what you said has no credibility.  Without source/support, I can claim whatever I want for my own interest.[/quote]

DP: PP is only partially accurate. SAT/ACT scores ARE highly correlated with SES. But SAT scores are predictive of first year grades in college even controlling for SES and HS GPA.  But they aren't that predictive of college graduation or college GPA after the first year.  Also, both the relationships between GPA and standardized tests and college outcomes vary widely by high schools.

There are a lot of different studies that show different aspects of this so it's not that easy to cite one (or even just several).  But if you're interested, just go to scholar.google.com, look in studies post 2016 or so (5 years is a good time to see recent enough impacts because they often have to work with earlier data) and type in socioeconomic status, standardized tests, college outcomes and see the range of studies.  The key thing though is not to just go for the study that cherry picks the evidence for what you want to believe.  The College Board for instance doesn't control for SES in many of its studies of SAT validity, and looks at first year GPA and 2nd year retention because that's where the SAT works.  Those who are opposed to standardized tests focus on overall college GPA and college graduation rates and control for SES--often neglecting the positive findings of first year impacts.  [/quote]

PP here.  Yes this is right, I was focused on longer outcomes rather than first year. Presumably all those rich kids are better prepared at first but them get distracted by secret societies and finals clubs and such and their performance declines.  [/quote]

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