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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Does that mean 11k students were actually entered into the lottery?  Or 11k students were examined for their eligibility for the lottery?  In long past, only some students were even recommended to try for the HGC.  That has expanded to all students being allowed to try for the HGC/CES, meaning all students are "considered."[/quote]

It looks to me that 11k were entered into the lottery.[/quote]
There are 12k students per grade:
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/middle.pdf

Only MAP 85% and above can enter the lottery.

There are 3 numbers:
(1) number of students considered (MCPS published numbers, almost all students)
(2) number of students in the lottery (not published)
(3) number of students placed in programs (published)
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You made this up. They have never said discussed who was actually in the lottery.
11K students were technically "considered" in 2019 and 2020 too but that is not the number in the considered column in this document.

If you are correct and I'm not saying you are correct or incorrect just that we don't know.... there's a reason MCPS is comparing apples to oranges and it's about covering up something.[/quote]
If you are not sure of something, you should not accuse people of making things up.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l0Zy-bCfG7O8E-F64VOnit_54fjOIU_lTR1JyU8SSMg/edit

"Multiple academic measures were used to identify students. Given the impact of COVID-19 school-building closures, both measures from the 2019-2020 and 2020-2021 school years were included. [b]To be placed in the humanities and communication lottery pool, an A in both reading and writing and an indication of above reading grade level on the report card from Grade 4, and a locally normed minimum of 85th percentile on either last year (winter) or this year’s (fall) MAP-R.  For math, science or computer science, an A in both math and science and an indication of on level or higher for reading on the report card from Grade 4 and a locally normed minimum of 85th percentile on either last year (winter) or this year’s (fall) MAP-M.[/b]"
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You don't seem to understand the point. The point is MCPS has never said how many students were in the lottery.[/quote]

Exactly!

So if the proportion of certain groups who made it into the lottery was similar to previous years but SOMEHOW the very random lottery became weighted toward specific groups, one might infer something sneaky took place. Why do they obscure the denominator?![/quote]

+1
If they have nothing to hide why not be open about it? This is really the only large school district in the whole country that I have seen behave like this.[/quote]

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