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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am an immigrant also and I actually don't get the whole thing about starting algebra in any particular grade. Like, in my own country (first grade), children solve equations (e.g. x+10=21, 18-x=3 etc) in the first grade. in the fourth grade they are doing various combinations e.g. (x*3+23234234)-987987=234234. it builds from there. They also learn to translate increasingly complex word problems into equations. But there is no big announcement of "now we are starting algebra", it's all called math. and yes, all kids are doing the same program, but some are better in it than others. the good ones get higher grades, obviously, but that's about it.[/quote]

This is why what the US call Algebra 1 is confusing with cross-cultural comparisons, because kids do those kinds of equations in elementary school and it's considered pre-algebra, whereas many countries from elementary on.[/quote]

but kids have gone to school in the US and have not done any of those problems. haven't used variables as stand ins for anything. I am not sure teachers could solve some of the stuff that 4th graders are doing in my home country (Eastern Europe, but not Russia). you make it sound like in the US they are learning harder stuff but actually I have never seen a challenging problem.[/quote]

+1000 I was lucky to find and grab a bunch of middle/high school math books from my home country when I visited a few years back. Completely different approach and tons of problem solving, many problems I wasn't sure I could do, especially geometry. Algebra and Geometry were taught in an integrated way, every single book had some degree of geometry problems to solve that were tied to the topics in the book. Calculus was not watered down, it was built up with rigorous definition of limits, similar to what is seen in an intro to real analysis course, this was typically covered in 11 and 12th books, though limits were typically seen even in the 10th grade books. Again, completely different approach, nothing was watered down, very few simple "exercises", much of the material was "problems" that had to be solved.[/quote]

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