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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]16 is not typical.  My 3 kids have had 21-34 over the last decade or more.[/quote]

When they had 34, do they add a teacher’s assistant? Wow.[/quote]
Prior to 5th grade, it’s illegal to have more than 30 in VA.[/quote]

FCPS presents averages to the public NOT how many are in the classroom for language arts +social studies and math + science.  
It's illegal to have more than 24 in    language arts for grades 6-12.  https://www.doe.virginia.gov/boe/quality/soq_max_class_size.pdf

[i]Each school board shall assign licensed instructional personnel in a manner that produces 
divisionwide ratios of students in average daily membership to full-time equivalent teaching 
positions, excluding special education teachers, principals, assistant principals, counselors, and 
librarians, that are not greater than the following ratios: (i) 24 to one in kindergarten with no 
class being larger than 29 students; if the average daily membership in any kindergarten class 
exceeds 24 pupils, a full-time teacher's aide shall be assigned to the class; (ii) 24 to one in 
grades one, two, and three with no class being larger than 30 students; (iii) 25 to one in grades 
four through six with no class being larger than 35 students; and (iv) 24 to one in English 
classes in grades six through 12. [/i]

Past- parents were desperate to get their children into aap out of some base schools because of immersion.  30 and 35 were irrelevant numbers.[b] 24:1 for English classes doesn't mean ESL but is a bogus number for fcps.  [/quote]

Are you sure those aren’t simply guidelines?  None of the HS English classes I teach this year has an enrollment of less than thirty[/b].  [/quote]

[b]It's about time the teachers and maybe the finally activated NAACP on language arts do headcounts and call out FCPS on this one. If after decades the NAACP finally said something I can't see why they wouldn't help teachers and students with this.[/b]

Perhaps FCPS adds in any stray ESOL, librarians, SPED?  IDK.  24:1 means English classes but FCPS budget calls it a base ratio. For example a school with lower % FRPM-ESL assumes a classroom to have 31 students.  I learned about the 24:1 over 15 years ago when a parent of an older kid had a whopping 38 in grade 6 for pat of the core instruction [SOL].

This is why FCPS even in AP English or history might have a lower count on writing papers etc than found in private schools or IB.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY-2022-Approved-Budget.pdf  p 368/531 to find easily

[i]High School Staffing
At the high school level, class size calculations assume students enroll in seven 
classes including English, and teachers have five periods with a base ratio of 31.0, 
except English classes which have a base ratio of 24.0. Additionally, staffing is 
provided based on students eligible for FRM and students receiving ESOL services. 
The weighted factor used to allocate needs-based staffing applies to schools with 
25 percent or more of their student population eligible for FRM. School principals 
have flexibility in determining how positions will be used. Additional staffing is also 
provided to schools with International Baccalaureate, Advanced Placement, and/or 
JROTC Programs. Each school also receives other positions, such as a 1.0 assessment 
coach position and a 1.0 certified athletic trainer position. [/i][/quote]

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