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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Elementary education in US is fine. It's the middle and high school education that cannot compete with many other countries.
School does start a little too early here, but it's because the US doesn't have free daycare for all. This early learning cuts into play time, which is learning for young children.
Middle and high school classes are taught by chemists, historians and linguists in the old country. It makes a big difference.[/quote]

Actually the problems in elementary education bleed into middle and high school education. Kids aren't taught to read properly. They don't have good background knowledge for science and social studies. Elementary math teachers (in general) are not good mathematicians. One thing the video doesn't say is that Finish teachers are generally top of their class in college. US teachers are generally not. Highly educated college students go into teaching in Finland. Highly educated college students in the US go into tech or finance. [/quote]

I agree, and I was a teacher.  A lot of teachers are just plain ignorant.  A LOT.  Education classes are a joke.  And if a teacher is intelligent and well-educated, she will probably not last long in the public school system, being treated like a child by administrators and told exactly what to say and do every second of every day, never allowed to actually use any of that education or intelligence.[/quote]

Yes! Ed school Classes were terrible. My history prof focused on a curriculum that FCPS never bought and we were not allowed to use. No independent behavior management classes. I had to hustle that summer after my first year to squeeze in as much continuing Ed as possible, but I had friends who needed to work. [/quote]

Not everyone is this way. I earned a masters in my subject area 5 years before I considered public school teaching.[b] I’ve never taken a single undergrad ed course[/b]. I took 10 grad level courses for the certification process, but I was never under the impression that those would actually prepare me for classroom teaching. Undergrad ed majors were high school students less than 5 years ago. They know what public school is like and what was boring, effective, confusing, or helpful. They should speak up.[/quote]

This is actually true of most Virginia public school teachers--they major in a content area and then get their master's degree in education.  Only recently have there even been undergraduate education programs being started--as a route to address the teacher shortage before the pandemic.

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