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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There's a capitalistic view of everything in the food world,  and  that includes dog food.

Keto,  low carb, even vegan organizations have an agenda, and it's easy to purport something  using isolated  pieces of research  or skewed data.  We are really effed up regarding food.

Michael Pollan said it best :
"Eat food. Not too much, mostly plants."

In this statement we understand it all-

We cannot overeat, but we do. We overeat because we live in a consumer driven  first world society where food is plentiful, more of a commodity,  and underwrites a large service  industry. Food is also recreation. Food is advertised to us.

Processed food is really plentiful,  and it isn't food, but it's quite an industry. It involves chemicals and so much  sugar.

We rely on industrial farms, and we as a country subsidize the farming ndustry to produce mass crops like corn,  wheat, soy. Corn products,  as a result, are in everything. Animals are also mass harvested in unhealthy and inhumane  ways. Their production is unhealthy for us and the environment.  Without a doubt, this is one of our largest problems.

So, if you follow the above advice, you will  be ahead of the  game, but it's really hard to do. There is so much sugar,  processed foods, snacks,  too many restaurants,  too many things surrounded by food and alcohol as a lifestyle. To reign ourselves in takes us out of a culture and lifestyle,  really, and that's hard.

Keep  your weight manageable. No, BMI isn't everything.

Get enough, yet  reasonable exercise. You need to  burn off your calories, wherever they come from, but we live in an increasingly sedentary lifestyle- the way we work and live. Our exercise now must be out of context  to that,  so it takes motivation.  
Try to reduce  stress, yet we live in an ambitious and capitalistic culture, so good luck  with that.  
 Eat  everything in moderation. Meat isn't healthy,  and we all know that,  but if you are going  to eat it,  make it a small part of your diet. We think of meals as "the meat" and vegetables as the "sides." Reverse that.   It's a paradigm switch. 
Eat dessert! But not as much, and  not often. Make it special.  Stop watching baking shows.  They don't help.

No one  needs cola or diet cola. If you do,  figure out  how to  stop.

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I think the crux of this is right: be reasonable. Eat a reasonably good diet. You know what that is - real food like vegetables, grains, a little protein. If you like carbs and your doctor hasn't told you to stop eating them, eat them. If you like eggs, eat eggs - they are packed with nutrition. If you put on weight then eat a little less and exercise some more and take it off. The Mediterranean diet still seems like the best version of what a good, healthy diet looks like (at least to me) - but make tweaks to your preferences. Try not to eat a lot of cr*p - sugary stuff, processed stuff, junk. You know what junk is - don't play dumb. If you drink a lot of soda, try to be more rigorous about not consuming junk the rest of the time.

I personally AM a vegetarian, and I have a lot of vegans in my life - but I don't think we all need to be so abstemious. If that works for you, then do it. If you still want to eat some salmon, eat some salmon. If you like having a burger once a week, do it - but don't go overboard with the fries and the bacon and all that stuff. You can actually make pretty decent tasting, pretty healthy fries at home if you cut up some potatoes, soak them in water, drain, dump them in a pan with olive oil and roast at 400 for an hour.

Exercise. Do it every day if you can. You don't need a Peloton. But get one if you like!

I hate these vegan documentaries because they just seem so progandistic to me - and so empty of facts - but from an animal welfare perspective I'm glad they exist, since they do seem to turn some people away from consuming animal products. But I guess, just - read everything skeptically, and follow your common sense to a good diet, I guess is my stupid advice.[/quote]

I am the PP above discussing moderation. I am also a vegetarian, and, frankly do wish meat was never in the equation  because I find it to be wrong on so many levels. However, I know that won't happen, and I do believe moderation in everything is the key.

I am a believer in whole plant diets, but I am  here to say that  vegan documentaries like this one engage in the same propaganda as the keto ones... the ones with all meat no carbs.  And, even though I think  vegan is optimal,  I can't fully do it without a huge lifestyle change  that involves not socializing  with family and friends, and I do think we  can still be healthy eaters without veganism.No, I don't preach to others about 
my vegetarianism,  either.

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