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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'd be happy if we could just decouple weight from morality and see it for the public health issue that it is.  We have decided that obese people are moral failures, and therefore the solution is for them to be better -- more disciplined, more virtuous in their food choices, more self-denying.  When, in fact, a lot of obesity is the result of systemic issues: cheap highly processed food, corn subsidies, food deserts, people unable to cook healthy food for themselves because they are too busy, sleep deprivation, etc., etc., etc.

If we could just separate those things so that your weight is a matter of personal preference and health, not shame.  [/quote]

Having been morbidly obese myself I am sorry to tell you that you are wrong. Good food is always available but fruit and vegetables don’t taste as good potato chips. Canned fruit in juice  and frozen vegetable are available at every grocery store and cost the same or less than processed food.  But they don’t taste as good.

Then there is the fact that if everyone around you is fat it makes you feel it’s ok to be fat too

And last and most important of all junk food is a cheap form of entertainment. When you don’t have much for extras in a budget, then you begin to reward and treat yourself and family with junk food because you can afford it and because you can justify the purchase even if you can’t really afford it. It’s one of the reason you see a lot of morbidly obese people at food banks. They can get the staples there so they can use food stamps for the “fun” food. I am not condemning but explaining that it really has nothing to do with food availability, processed foods, and most to do with personal choice. [/quote]
I am sorry that your did not get the the good draw when it came to food and weight. Likely it was your genetics and your environment. Society and capitalism here also suck so bad here, and government has poor food standards. I wonder do you ever feel like you are just bombarded with "bad" food choices and nobody cares? Nobody cares that fruits and veggies are too expensive, that nutrition education sucks, I mean we feed kids oil and sugar laden desserts in schools and call savory dishes! You buy teriyaki sauce and find out later that one spoon of it has 5 spoons of sugar?
How are we to fight such pounding with cheap, empty calories that are nutrient lacking in every sense?
How are you to learn to think that tomato is delicious, when you only get unripe tastless variety? We are all guinea pigs for the food and pharmaceutical industry! But, hey, dcum often thinks you should know better, learn, do better. When you watch a poverty documentary, guess what overweight teen girls pray is at their local food pantry? Strawberries! They want them, bcs they are sick of potato chips. Literary and figuratively sick! I do not believe that it is your fault, individual fault, we are fed like pigs in pens! Well, actually pigs probably have it better, we are like chickens.[/quote]

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