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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Agree with 19:00. In fact I'd hope most people would agree there can be small temporary gains with effort. That would be entirely consistent with the sports analogy that the plasticity poster keeps pushing. But those gains are limited.

Sam2 [/quote]
Any gain is limited if preparation is brief and temporary ... if one stops training.   Are you an athlete?  Have you lifted weights?  Ever swam or run?  If your preparation is brief and halting of course all gains are limited.  If your training and preparation are steady and continuous gains in these areas are significant.  Try the experiment someday you'll see what I mean.  The same can be said for mental exercise.  It's rather simple.  It's not rocket science.  Do the experiment if you can't read the scientific literature in exercise physiology or neuroscience and IQ plasticity.  Lest you immediately dart behind the preposterous conclusion I am stating these physical or IQ gains are infinite and unlimited.  For the record, I am not and the scientific and medical literature does not support this.[/quote]
You misunderstand.  The part I most agree with 19:00 about is her description of you and your unwillingness to engage in a constructive exchange ...
[quote]I'm another poster who thinks IQ may be variable, under the right circumstances. But a big problem for you is that you always, always, always overstate the case, and this undermines anything you say and makes ridicule inevitable. [/quote]
I've read enough of your posts to know that engaging with you is a worthless exercise, and I'm not interested in wasting my time that way.  If you will start demonstrating a more constructive approach, then I'll exchange ideas with you.  Until then, best of luck to you.

Sam2[/quote]

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