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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For older ages YSR needs more games to be more accurate because the demise of the GDA mixed up rosters and the with the pandemic cancellations, some teams in their new generations have not played that many competitive matches.   
It may be better for younger ages.

But for rankings, YSR is generally a useful methodology and got soccer is not useful at all.  Got soccer is only useful to look at some game history but that can be very incomplete.[/quote]

Agree hat teams need 10+ games before the rankings start to approximate reality.  So if a year like last year causes problems for any and all ranking systems.  Still most teams in this area have played enough games by now.[/quote]

What do you mean any and all?  Are there others beyond got soccer and YSR?  (nothing behind paywalls please)[/quote]

For youth soccer - there's topdrawer (no better than got soccer though).  But what I meant was that any algorithm would struggle to produce an accurate ranking system if the teams change signioficantly and then don't play many games.  Under such circumstances, golf handicaps would not work either, nor would chess masters be ranked correctly, or tennis players, or bridge players etc.  Basically - the situation you posited: teams change so all historical data is inaccurate and teams cannot play so no current data is generated, creates an insoluble problem for any ranking system imaginable.[/quote]

But that is how YSR corrects itself.  Yes, if last year's team X was amazing, then this year when they lose or don't be a team where by 2 or 3 when they are ranked 2 or 3 points higher, they go down (see red arrows).  Over a few games, you'll see that red arrow often enough and their ranking goes down while others go up.  It's take about 1/2 a season to generally correct itself.  It is by far the best youth system, if a youth system was to have one at all.[/quote]

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