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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I personally don’t mind traditional family structures in civilized societies where men and women have different roles but abuses of power are discouraged by the community. However we are simply shifting now, can’t stop the train. The modern world and especially the nature of work in the modern, which is equally suitable to both men and women, calls for egalitarian family schemes. Chivalry just doesn’t make sense in this context.

The modern man who embraces egalitarianism will be more of a daily partner to his wife on the household front but less inclined to “rescue” her from situations where she doesn’t actually need help just for emotional reasons (just like an egalitarian woman is less likely to make her husband lunches to bring to work because he enjoys the feeling of it). Equal partner is just too big of a mindset shift to take turns selectively infantilizing each other.

I don’t view this as pure progress personally but just a shifting of trade offs. It is what it is, really.

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Chivalric ideals are incredibly classist.  Which women deserve protection, and which are fair game for abuse and exploitation, is very much based on class (and in this country, race).  Lower class women were expected to do a lot of very hard labor; they were definitely not protected and coddled.  And upper-class women were severely constrained in their behavior -- the wrong choices could remove them from the sphere of protection.

And that traditional family structure enables a lot of abuse -- where women are discouraged from paid employment, they are economically dependent on the man, and so more vulnerable to abuse.  "Abuses of power" might be officially discouraged, but where the community relies on a certain family structure, there is a strong tendency to look the other way, and to side with the more powerful against the less powerful.  [/quote]

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