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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anyone remember the Crusades?
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You've obviously never read Fred Donner's [i]Early Islamic Conquests[/i].  Princeton University Press, c 1982 if memory serves.

IN mid-7th Century, the Prophet, having relocated to Medina caught that Acela to Paradise in 632.  For the balance of the 7th century, the Rashidun 
Caliphs went a jihading in every direction.

Conquered the Near East and North Africa, which had been Christian for centuries previously.  The First Crusade was in 1092... some 450 years of Islamic conquest and occupation AFTER the early Islamic conquests.  If your academic experience of the Crusades was filtered through multi-cultural political correctness you've never heard this.

The Crusades were a penitential quest for European nobles many of whom were quite wealthy already, had all the land they needed, and frankly couldn't afford vassal states hundreds of miles from home even if that had been their intention.  Which is was not.  It went off the rails in some places, some atrocities were committed.  Which was NOT the point of the endeavor.

The First Crusade was a brief, local success in places before it became a disaster.  The other crusades were total disasters for Christendom. Various local Muslim rulers easily handed them their heads.  figuratively speaking and sometimes literally.

Crusades, Crusades...European people Bad ... wah wah wah.  Yeah, you can believe that.  If you ignore all the contrary history you've never heard.[/quote]

I have a graduate degree in the history of the middle east with a focus on the crusades, and I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Seems like pp's point is espousing views of white nationalism 
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