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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Students will (hopefully) apply to colleges that are the right fit for them based on things like: major urban\suburban\rural Sports, intramurals, clubs Small, medium, large student body amenities distance from home networking & opportunities social - parties, frats dorms walkability Also colleges will still recruit students. So maybe instead of only recruiting athletes or academic superstars they will look to balance the student body: - increasing students from rural communities, the pacific coast, or specific states - filling the 10 spots available in the culinary arts - recruit students that played a musical instrument - focusing on C students because they have a strong support network or even students that are the first in their families to go to college or ELL students [/quote] But nothing you’ve listed has to do with educational rigor. Most parents don’t want to pay $80k x 4 for a country club or a playground experience. Believe me, something will emerge that will be a type of ranking/selectivity indicator because competitive students, parents, employers, and even better colleges will demand it. The worst would be some non-transparent system that no one acknowledges but actually controls admission. In sum, we need some time of standardized credential for ACADEMIC RIGOR with a curve for socioeconomic context. [/quote] Employers don’t demand it now. They hire people, based on college performance, experiences and personal qualifications. “Believe me”, they know which schools prepare the kids they want and they don’t look at effing USNews to discover that.[/quote] Of course employers don’t ask for test scores. What I mean is that test scores are a common language for students, parents, employers, and colleges to know what kind of student goes where. Look, part of the prestige of Harvard is that you know that smart people go there. Yes, in turn, they have experiences at the college, etc., but the initial criteria is that they are smart. Do great colleges spend a lot of time with test scores? No, because they are easy to assess. Test scores are a gateway for deeper review. Which colleges to apply to or recruit from seems “obvious” now because all the data is present. Without the data and 10 years hence, it may be less clear. Who will benefit? The schools with currently great reputations will become entrenched. Who will lose? Any school trying to climb the ladder and the students who attend them. [/quote] You think Harvard grads are desired by employers because of their peer cohort’s test scores? This may be the most unintentionally funny thing I have read on this forum.[/quote] I’m glad I made you laugh. However, I think you are either a bit dense or just trying to be difficult. No college or employer wants a student for their test score, per se. The test score is a signaling device. If a college admits high scorers only, employers know that students are the caliber that they want. I know you’ll probably respond that employers want problem solvers, blah, blah, blah, but if all starts with capability. [/quote] I’m dense? You are the one doubling down that employers want Harvard grads because of their test scores, whether a “signaling device” or not. It’s so ridiculous I can’t think you are a real poster.[/quote]
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