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[quote=Anonymous][quote=TheManWithAUsername][quote=Anonymous][quote=TheManWithAUsername][quote=Anonymous]It's always funny to me that "conservatives" can't seem to wrap their minds around the concept of "consent".[/quote]
Clinton was accused of a lot more than consensual sex.[/quote]
[quote=Anonymous]Which accusation were you referring to?   One of the rape accusations, or that he killed Vince Foster?  Or that he headed a murderous drug-dealing ring?[/quote]
The sexual harassment, primarily, but also the assault and rape accusations. The others weren't on topic.

[quote=Anonymous]Heck, by this measure, we could say 'W' was accused of even worse than these two:  he actually plotted and gave the order to blow up the World Trade Center, and ok'ed the demolition of the Pentagon to cover up the conspiracy.  And he went AWOL from the TANG.  Also, Laura Bush killed someone.[/quote]
By what measure? You're the one who has moved it into the ridiculous. The issue was very clearly Clinton's sexual conduct.

[quote=Anonymous]There's a difference between accusations and a cash pay-out to settle a sexual harassment case.[/quote]
There sure is, and Clinton paid Paula Jones almost $1 million. I think you reviewed every allegation against Clinton except the two most substantial: harassment of Jones and perjury during those proceedings. (The perjury is unrelated to what we're talking about here.)

[quote=Anonymous]We know Clinton got a blowjob from a young woman who wanted to give him a blowjob.  We know that Cain was accused by several women of sexually harrassing them, and that the accusations were severe enough that NRA legal counsel paid them to settle.[/quote]
This is the kind of goal post shifting I'm used to seeing from conservatives. This was the exchange here:
- PP relates Clinton & sex to Cain & sex
- opposing PP (you?) mocks the first PP b/c Clinton's sex acts were consensual
- I remind the second PP that Clinton had been accused of more than just consensual acts.

Were there differences between Clinton's situation and Cain's? Countless, I'm sure. But the distinction drawn by PP (you?) was consensual vs. not, and that distinction isn't there. All the other things you now raise are different issues.[/quote]

Hey, look.  Don't blame me for the intentional ambiguity of your initial post.  There were countless, countless accusations that were flying around during that time.  And conservatives essentially took every single one of them as the gospel truth the second they were launched.  So you claim that the Paula Jones case had merit.  Fine.  But frankly there's a bit of the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf going on here.  If there are twenty women who come forward--along with claims of drug-dealing, and Hillary murdering Vince Foster--and every single one of these stories is sponsored by the same right-wing organizations, you'll have to excuse me if, after the 18th case, I begin to get a bit skeptical.

The Cain charges were obviously brought by one of his opponents in the GOP primary.  The fact that Cain's gone up in the polls pretty much speaks volumes about your average GOP primary voter.[/quote]

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