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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's entirely possible for someone to get in on the basis of an invented sob story that isn't  checked. Recently read essays for a scholarship  in my home town and people wrote about their dad the heroin addict and their identical twin that died and people in jail and refugees in camps and rafts and honestly a lot of it is compelling but we don't verify it and some of it could be fiction. The question is how many people are unscrupulous enough to invent a family tragedy or claim they have cancer etc. I think there are more sociopaths in our midst than we suspect.[/quote]

And you are pulling this right out of your bottom.  There is no evidence to believe what you believe.

Not saying a kid can't lie on his essays -- but you forget about references, relationships with GCs, and you ignore how hard adcoms - particularly at the ivies where there is so much scrutiny -- work to admit the right kids.  I guarantee you not only can they spot BS after readying tens of thousands of essays, they know when they have to check and when they don't.  Takes one phone call.[/quote]

I don't know.  I remember seeing this story several years ago about a guy who was a master fantasist:  https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/5/17/wheeler-harvard-wheelers-applications/
Here's a more recent case:  https://www.salon.com/2020/10/30/texas-gop-senator-didnt-graduate-from-oxford-university-law-program-as-claimed-in-prior-campaign/
Here's another one:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2450806/Top-city-lawyer-lied-Oxford-Harvard-degrees-quits.html

These are just the ones we know about.  I suspect there are a lot of people walking around who are claiming to be something they are not.[/quote]

You should read your links before you post them.  Two refer to people who lied about where they went, not to get admitted as they WERE NOT ADMITTED - the opposite of your point.

The third was a student who forged documents, including transcripts and recommendations, not just "invented a sob story".  Also, he was caught.

So yes, [i]you do know[/i], you can't get admitted by lying your way in with a sob story if you don't have the relevant qualifications.  It just doesn't happen with any statistical significance.  Don't try it and don't be bitter thinking others do and succeed.[/quote]

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