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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a great discussion. I don't know of any of the big clubs that really develop players from the ground up. I think most try to focus on producing winning teams at u16 and older. Those teams produce college players and YNT players, which attracts more kids and money. Bethesda and Pipeline are the only successful teams I know who tend to have players from their youth teams move up to the older clubs. FCV doesn't and I doubt you will find more than four or five players.[/quote]

This is another easy and tired trope that clubs don't develop players. They certainly do, it's just that players move on more than in the past. The real reason players are so transient is the huge number of options available, and the constant push to play on the best teams.[/quote]

Former Pipeline parent here.  I'm telling you-- they do not develop players, they do not develop teams.  And it's no wonder, because they have parent coaches with no training throughout their ranks. The teams are made up of a ruling elite class who hang around due to nepotism and god knows what other favors and then they poach all-stars from other organizations like there mini-hunting trophies. Their winning record will fizzle out in time. This is the most toxic organization we've ever seen.[/quote]

I have a few friends who have kids in Pipeline and I think the above statement isn't necessarily true from what I have heard, but I can see where the sentiment comes from.  It's hard to objectively say Pipeline doesn't develop players or teams.  They have a pretty good track record for a younger club.  Almost all of the parents I know have been very happy with the development and the club.  HOWEVER, I can see where people have an issue.  From what I have seen they appear to very aggressively recruit better teams and players.  I have seen that first hand and I'm not sure that's a bad thing, depending.  If your child is on a great team and in the top third talent wise I would be excited about more talented kids coming in to train with and play with your child, which makes them better.  If you have a "bubble" player and you want your kid to develop into a top player, but Pipeline brings in the shiny new toy and your kid is moved down I can see where that would cause some resentment.  I have also seen that with a friend who had their kid moved down for a better new player after the teams were "set".  He was pissed and maybe rightfully so, but at a certain level it's about putting together the best team on the field.

It's hard to say, well, Player A you are much better than Player B who we are struggling with on the team, but we want to work on developing Player B and hoping they get better so we are not going to bring you on the team Player A....but please god don't go to a rival club.  Like someone previously posted, it's hard to say we lost 2-9, but we are ok with that because we are developing players.  At the younger ages I wish more clubs thought and acted like that, but at a certain age that mindset needs to change.[/quote]

If player identification and collecting are all that matters then we really should just return to ODP. [/quote]

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