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[quote=TheManWithAUsername][quote=anonymous]I couldn't agree more. I never used to resent paying taxes. However, the wealthy have been vilified so much in the last couple of years that I am now angry and resentful. I pay more than my "fair share." Enough already. [/quote]
Vilified by whom? The vilification isn’t happening. What’s happening is a bunch of people manipulating you by telling you you’re being vilified.

BTW, though, you form your opinions about tax policy based on whether your feelings have been hurt?

[quote=anonymous] My position is I don't need gratitude but I don't want to be denigrated and called selfish. That's a reasonable position.[/quote]
Sure. But where is that occurring?

[quote=anonymous]I hear politicians saying the wealthy need to "give back more" all the time - and you do too.[/quote]
I’m confident I’ve never used that phrase. That phrase is foreign to my perspective on taxation. I have a username, so it would be easy to search and find that quote or one like it from me.

I wouldn’t nitpick about the language, but your whole point has been about the language used. I propose that all of you are imagining/being told that certain language is being used by Dems that simply isn’t, just like you’ve imagined that I used that phrase. (I don't doubt that many Dems have said "give back more," but that's a far cry from vilification.)

[quote=anonymous]I am told the wealthy need to pay their fair share and that they aren't. I give 50%. I don't want to give more. In fact, I want to give somewhat less and I still do not think that is selfish or unfair.[/quote]
Ah – so it’s NOT the language. You just don’t want to pay more. Nothing really interesting about that position.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=TheManWithAUsername]"Fair share" is different. Obviously, whenever there's a disagreement over proper rates, the sides are disagreeing over what's fair. There's nothing personal about each side thinking that only they have the "fair" solution - that's the entire nature of the dispute.[/quote]

I do not think that fairness is the entire nature of the dispute. The incentives we give people for wealth creation, meaning social wealth like jobs and goods, and the necessary size of government are my first concerns. Then I am concerned about not asking people to give too much because that would be unfair.

The independent idea that the rich need to give up a large amount of their wealth in the name of fairness is usually, but not always, a redistributive urge. Some people support that and some don't. I do not think that is the entire nature of the dispute.[/quote]
You’re right (using “redistributive” broadly, IMO).

I still don’t think it’s especially inflammatory or insulting to talk about fairness in this context, as PP apparently did, since most of us have ideas about fairness somewhere in the analysis, as you and I do.[/quote]

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