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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, are you talking T20 in the US or T20 in the world? Aside from the Ivies plus 2, maybe 3 others, there are no other T20s in the US.[/quote]

There are lots of different international rankings, of course. THE shows 13 US universities in the Top 20 worldwide:

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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[quote=Anonymous]What did they do during high school. Stats?[/quote]

Our DD from DC private had an uw GPA of 3.8, high 1400's on SAT, and some interesting ECs involving work and extra study in her area of interest. No sports to speak of, and no "hooks". She applied to roughly 5 T20s (the notion of "T20" is somewhat subjective) and was accepted at 2. She's a very diligent student, and we suspect she had very strong letters of recommendation. Based on her experience, as well as what we know from close friends, it sure looks pretty random out there. For "regular" applicants (i.e. not legacies, recruits, etc.), our impression is that once you cross some thresholds in terms of grades and standardized test scores, it is pretty much a lottery. The same essay that seems really authentic and sticks in the mind of one admissions officer might sound contrived and calculated to another. Despite acceptances at a couple of T20s and at some well regarded international schools, our DD was also rejected from a couple of U.S. "match" schools. Would not be overly surprised to learn that sometimes they essentially  just pick randomly from the sufficiently qualified pile.      [/quote]

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