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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've never gone out of my way to listen to him but I watched him on a couple of YouTube videos and he seems smart but also just pretends that his opinions are facts.  He does indeed speak very fast.  I've never seen a single one of those videos where he doesn't mention religion or that he's Jewish.  It's ridiculous.  He seems to believe that gives him some sort of moral authority.  I saw one video where he claimed he was fine with gay people but didn't think marriage was something they should get because it's a religious function.  Evidently he speaks for all religions everywhere.[/quote]

Well... I don't know if Ben is claiming that he personally is some sort of moral authority, but it's at least a debatable point that religions do in fact serve as a moral authority. While Ben does mention his religion, he almost use it as the basis for an argument - unless he is specifically talking about the founding principles of the US, and governing politics since then, which is historically accurate to say was heavily influenced by Judeo-Christian values. Even then, he merely states this as an observation rather than an argument that because these are Judeo-Christian values, therefore they are correct. It is also factually true that the US has two separate treatments of marriage: a religous/cultural ceremony, plus a legal civil union. If I understand Ben's position correctly, he supports government-recognized civil union for anyone, but leave religions alone and to their own decisions on whether or not they want to recognize certain types of marriages. Therefore Ben's position on religion and marriage is exactly opposite of what you are understanding - he does not want anyone to speak for all religions, not the government, and certainly not himself. [/quote]

Actually, the country was mostly based on English common law and they looked to Greek and Roman republics.  They didn't look to the bible when founding the country.  Additionally, most of the founding fathers were actually Deists/Humanists, a notable exception being Adams who was pretty much a fundamentalist Christian.  You've been brainwashed by right-wing media with lies.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/deism-the-founding-fathers-definition-beliefs-quiz.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/06/28/how-benjamin-franklin-a-deist-became-the-founding-father-of-a-unique-kind-of-american-faith/
https://www.mshumanists.org/blog/2018/12/31/a-christian-nation-not-so-according-to-these-founding-fathers

And of course there's the famous Jefferson Bible where he removed all the miracles and other pseudo-scientific supernatural non-sense.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/how-thomas-jefferson-created-his-own-bible-5659505/
[img]https://4d6ab1ae1m81qn73x25fcrb1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jeffersonbible2.png[/img]

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I said Judeo-Christian values, not Judaism or Christianity. This is simply a reference to the ethics/values that is well recognized to being sourced from these religions, and not the dogmatic practice of these religions. You brought up English common law, but law is not ethics or values. Instead, law is a legal framework that runs alongside cultural ethics and values, which if you need a reminder, was/is Christianity in England. Christian ethics/morals, therefore, shaped English common law. Sure, our founding fathers did not reference the Christian bible when founding this nation, but they relied on the Englightenment ideals originating from John Locke, who was, gasp, an English Christian. Are you really prepared to argue that a philosopher on ethics and values does not reference his religious beliefs? Why was the Englightenment ideals so successful? One key aspect of it was the separation of church and state. You know what religion [i]allows [/i]for separation of church and state? Christianity. This is why we reference Judeo-Christian values, and not more broadly Abrahamic values. [/quote]

Hmmm..  Locke didn't use divine law - ie christianity, as the basis for his philosophy.  He used Natural Law -- the law that is the consequence of the universe as created by God, not his revealed words in the Bible.  So this analysis falls pretty flat.  His/England's form of Christianity rejected Aquinas' notions of natural law.[/quote]

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