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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Give me liberty or give me death, literally. That is what is being discussed. Really interesting study in sociology and personal choice vs. group choice, freedom v. societal health and trading one risk for another.

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I don't think that is correct at all.  Most people exercising liberty will not have death.  They will make choices based on their assessment of risk.  Conversely, if everybody stayed home, but the virus did not disappear, then we'd have no liberty for an extended period of time and then death when lockdown lifts.  I don't think it is complicated at all.  If you go out, you are exercising liberty, and if you stay in, you are exercising liberty, and if you worry about those going out, you can minimize risk to yourself.  It's not like anybody is forcing people to leave their home, and if we cannot get a vaccine, then the people who are out are moving us to herd immunity, and those that stay home are free riding.  But nobody s going to force people not to free ride.  That is how both groups of people can exercise their liberty and we all move forward, absent a threat to hospital bed capacity, in which case lockdown would once again be appropriate.[/quote]

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