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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree with not counting your chickens— even [b]assuming your friend is right that the hiring official [/b]would like to hire you it’s not that unusual to have to cancel an opening because the people coming thru the cert as highly scored aren’t the people the hiring officer thinks are right for the job.

Whether a job is challenging varies a lot across the fed govt but in general there is a lot more challenge and responsibility than most people expect.

Also coming to the feds late in your career is a great time— work 10 years/until you are 57 and you have retiree health benefits for life, which might be almost as valuable as your pension.  Compare that to the increasing risk of age discrimination over that same time period and to me, for a single parent (with less room for error) it’s a no brainer to move. [/quote]

You better hope that no one finds out about that, because both of you would be gone in a second. No, a millisecond. [/quote]

That’s not true at all.

The announcement needs to go out for open and fair competition. Then HR has to review the resumes. It only matters if the hiring official gets the resumes (assuming OP even makes the cert and he agency doesn’t have some mid-point between HR and the hiring official like mine does) and then if there is someone else clearly more qualified. There shouldn’t be anyone clearly more qualified if OP makes the cert.

All this said, I’ve seen people who literally lost the job that was announced for them. A veteran got through or someone else was just clearly better qualified. Most interviews are panel interviews so more than one person needs to agree. Of course people are brought in on purpose, but just as often people lose the jobs they think they’re certain to get.

[b]OP if your friend thinks that you’d be hired, they should be helping you understand how to frame your resume and interview style to get the job in a fair open competitive environment. [/b]

We all know nepotism happens in the Government, just like anywhere people work, but it’s not as straightforward as in private industry.[/quote]

This, plus if the friend can help write the cert, they can stack the odds in OP's favor by weaving in a few specific experience reqs that OP has but are maybe not very commonly found in one person, then have it stay open for just a short period of time. So for a program analyst position, prior experience with say, elephant training, brain surgery, and bond trading. Yeah, sure there might be one other person with that particular skill set, but odds are good that it would go to OP. It would be the job description that would make most people think, huh? And those in the know would say, oh they found someone.[/quote]

It is interesting that your agency will let the hiring official have that much say in the announcement! Where I am, all of the specialized experience has to come directly from the PD, which is either already established or if new has to go through a strict classification process - and for a position like a Program Analyst would be pretty boilerplate. HR pushes standard Department PDs now, too. Hiring officials have almost no say in how the announcement is structured. [/quote]

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