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My DC played u12 in Europe this summer.  In some countries, offsides is not played until u12 and throw-ins are not done until u12 either.  The focus is different - make the game more organic and fluid.  Fewer whistles, fewer rules, keep the ball at kids' feet and get them touches and thinking about making runs and playing into space....

How about primarily 7v7 or 9v9 until U17 except for few big competitions a year?  Another tidbit from girls soccer in Europe.  Results secondary to development. Less games vs. training. Allowing players to play creatively and have fun doing so. [/quote]

That sounds like fun, small sided play, and fewer games. You're trying to encourage more kids to play right? The less games, more training is a US soccer mandate that doesn't work in our culture.

[quote=Anonymous]Most importantly, the professional clubs subsidize the youth not the other way around.  And monetization for these clubs (and their investors) via development of youth players not from milking families in volume. [/quote]

Nice idea, but flawed. On the women's side, these clubs are struggling to keep their heads above water. Look at Spirit, they jettisoned their academy because it is a boat anchor in the current economic situation they face.

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-Signed parent of youth players in both boys and girls youth soccer with DA and ECNL experience.  [/quote]

Thanks for the signature. It adds credibility to your post.[/quote]

Thanks for the snark.

The boys and girls I saw playing in Europe had plenty of fun - your expertise aside.  Training to game ratio is important if the goal is development.  But if we want more cheap plastic trophies and medals, lets keep adding leagues, cups and championships so that everyone has one.

The reason clubs struggle is that there is no incentive for investors to get involved and no way to monetize development of players and clubs.  Switch the model and you may see some big changes.  [/quote]

Maybe you didn't read my post. I don't think the high fraction of training/small sided game model works in our culture. What works in Europe doesn't necessarily work here. Furthermore, the training to game ratio theory doesn't really describe the mechanism. What works development wise is touches. This is why the street soccer culture works so well. The training/game ratio is these cultures is zero. I don't think any changes you can think of will work in a broad sense until you have a soccer culture in which little kids want to play in a low structure environment on their own. That one will take a long time here, perhaps never.

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I agree with the street soccer part of this response.  In fact, there should be a futsal hard court built into almost every basketball court in the US.

However, what is happening in Europe is not just street soccer and small-sided games so that comment is misleading.  The focus in Europe is development of technical and tactical and not just putting 11-year olds on a full-sized field and then play direct soccer to the biggest and fastest kids, or running 30 minutes of foot skill work that very few players know how to use in games at the appropriate times.  That "style" is an American thing that is the lazy way of winning games.  This doesn't develop soccer players, it just makes life much easier for coaches and trainers.[/quote]

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