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Reply to ""Racists are recruiting. Watch your white sons.""
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes. Positive models of whiteness! Like white people who do not center themselves in every discussion about the effects of structural racism and active white supremacy. They’re out there. [/quote] are you trying to say that you think the linked article is "centering" and shouldn't have been published? [/quote] No, I’m saying that the OP’s insistence that kids can’t be inoculated against becoming white supremacists without “positive white role models” is silly...and racist. The article is fine.[/quote] why is that silly? We’re talking about kids. Do you really think that teaching kids whiteness is negative is a good way to raise kids who are anti-racist? I don’t think you’ve thought this through. [/quote] Whiteness IS negative. I'm white and how I understand it (which I learned from multiple POC) is that whiteness is completely made up. It's a way to band white people of *known* heritages together against blackness. Blackness DOES exist because we stripped millions of black people of their heritage when we brought them over on slave ships. Whiteness is what our society uses to grab power. You can't lump people of English, Irish, Danish, Czech, Russian, Polish, Moldovan, Greek descent together. Hell, the English and the French HATE each other and everyone hates the Germans. I will teach my children to be proud of their Irish, German, and Dutch heritage, and I will also teach them that American "white" culture is a weapon. [/quote] I'm the Asian parent from above. I disagree. I don't believe that any race or skin color is inherently negative. Yes, white supremacy and aryanism is reprehensible, but white Americans are no better or worse than Americans of any other race, whether black, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, or Asian. I find that teaching children that "white is bad" is just as destructive as the former state where "black is bad" and "Asians are bad". We don't need to substitute one form or bigotry and racism for another. I find it much more important to emphasize the positive message that all races are good and equal. That there are bad individuals in any group including racial groups, but that doesn't mean anything in the greater context of race in America. I believe that we will have a better chance at raising non-racist children by promoting equality and equal worth and lifting the previously persecuted groups up rather than trying to push the privileged groups down. The latter only festers resentment and self-loathing which does nothing to help promote equality. All it does is creates white supremacists from those who feel cheated by the system that is castigating them for being white or creates depressed individuals who don't see their own self-worth because of being told for many years that they are wrong just for the color of their skin, essentially placing them at the level of the formerly oppressed groups. [/quote]
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