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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Haven't read the article yet, but I've always thought it well known that most women get turned on by being the object of desire and having an assertive, more dominant lover. I've never had trouble finding this in men. And I'm not talking about jerks or a-holes. I've met plenty of men who are perfectly nice, considerate gentlemen, not sexists, can treat women as equals but know how to take charge in bed. Maybe it's because I'm older and my partners have been around my same age.[b] Is there really a dearth of sexually confident, assertive men in younger generations that know how to navigate this duality? Women used to be told all the time that we needed to be a whore in the bedroom and a lady outside of it. Are younger men unable to pull the equivalent off[/b]?[/quote]
This is a very good point.[/quote]
No they are not, unless their dads give them some idea. Boys are being talk these days to always ask permission to take the next step with a girl. This is what you end up with. The intent is right, but you end up with these so called "beta" guys in the bedroom [/quote]

Right, even if you get permission 15 ways from Sunday, if she regrets it later, you’re still at risk to be accused of rape. And the accusation equals the conviction. Women have brought this on themselves.[/quote]

This is such a load of BS, repeated with men who are predators.

I am a 50+ woman and my DH is a great guy in all aspects of life. He did not have to be a sexist jerk or misogynist or a rapey ahole to prove that he is manly or alpha. He has always been a considerate man who treats everyone with basic decency and respect.  It is not only how you treat women, but everyone - subordinates, service people, your waitress or waiter, people at work, rules, laws, manners, the Earty etc.

He is a great partner and a great dad.  He helps with whatever chores needs to be done at home.  In the bedroom, he is the person who leads and experiments...and I enjoy it because I trust him with my body, my heart and I do not have to second guess his intentions.  I am ok to be submissive or indulge in roleplay because it is a fantasy in the bedroom.  I can do it with him because I know that I am safe with him. He proves that to me in every aspect of life outside of the bedroom.

I have a DD and a DS. I am not scared for any of them. My DD knows what to expect in a man because she has the example of her dad. My DS knows how to treat a woman because of the example of his dad.

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The game has changed. I’m married in my late 30s and my experience is barely applicable to the current dating/newlywed culture. We are very much a product of our times and the times have changed....[/quote]

BS- it hasn’t changed, what’s changed is people accepting being treated badly. My DH is like the PPs. He s an amazing husband and role model for my kids who are in their 30’s. He and his guy friends who are all 60-ish set a very high bar and I know my SIL’s respect him and are learning from him because they grew up in dysfunctional families. [/quote]

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