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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is nothing tying the GPA or test scores to race in SCHEV. [/quote]

Nope. But they are in Naviance. I have access to TJ and Chantilly.  Both have average GPAs of 4.3-4.4 for admission.  Both have a lot of red on the scatter gram until about a 4.5.  Chantilly has one kid (out of 200-300 plotted) with a 4.05. Nothing lower admitted, and nobody else for at least another .1 above them.

TJ is 95% white or Asian and less than 2% FARMs.  Mostly unhooked.  Chantilly is 75% white or Asian and 16% FARMS, and mostly unhooked.  These are the numbers it takes for a white or Asian unhooked kid to get in from NOVA.  I’m sure if you look at Langley, McLean, Woodson, Oakton, LBSS, W Springfield, Naviance will say that the averages are above a 4.3/ 1450 there too.

The lower GPAs come from high school, with high URMs. But also ROVA HSs that don’t offer 15+ APs.  Remember UVA/WM are about 1/3 each NOVA, ROVA and OOS. OOS GPAs are higher than in state. That’s in SCHEV. But ROVAs are lower than NOVA. Because they don’t offer the course loads.

Maybe your kid will be the 1 4.05 out of several hundred admitted. But I wouldn’t count on it.  [/quote]

I am concerned that think you have a good handle on how statistics work, but you don’t. You can’t draw the conclusions you are posting with the information you have. Please take a minute to quietly think about what you are posting and why you are making these conclusions. If you say this stuff out loud, people are definitely thinking you are foolish (at the least) or racist (at worst). [/quote]

I think that you/OP has a kid from NoVA trying to get into UVA, which values GPA above SATs— with a junior year GPA significantly below 25%.

I also think that if you look at the NoVA scattergrams, some schools have literally no kids admitted to UVA in the last 5 years with a sub 4.0 W GPA, hooked or not.  That’s reading a graph.

I think some kids, like recruited athletes, and kids from high schools without many APs  and 1st Gen can get in with lower GPAs,  and they make up a lot of the bottom 25%.

And so think that as I go through senior year with a TJ kid, the guidance counselors clearly say that unless you hit a 4.5 on GPA, UVA is not a safety school. My kid isn’t even bother to apply and is doing ED WM.

I think so personally know of two kids in the last 2 years who banked on UVA and should not have. Forget being disappointed.  They had no college they were accepted in April because they had no safety or true match and wanted an Ivy or UVA (one kid) or a UC or UVA (another kid) and assumed they would be admitted because they were smart and worked hard and had good SATs and and decent GPA, but a few Bs. They had to go to the open list and work with guidance to get placed. Which they did. But not somewhere they wanted to be. And it’s not a position I would want my kid in.

And I think parents should help kids manage expectations. By all means— encourage them to dream big and reach for the stars.  But make sure they are realistic about their chances at an Ivy or UC or UVA.  Make sure they have a safety they can live with. Make sure they don’t get so invested in UvA  that not getting in will crush them.  Especially if they have a lower GPA.

I’m interested in why you are so insistent that an unhooked NoVA kid with a GPA below a 4.0 will get into UVA, when a look at your schools scattergram will tell you it is very highly unlikely?  It’s your kids college. Not yours. Why are you insisting a miracle will happen instead of helping your kid create a balanced, realistic list of schools they like, and where they will do well?[/quote]

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