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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We accepted and love it and I hear great things about 1st. My kids can’t wait to go to school every day. The PARCC scores are higher than my DCPS so it is all relative.[/quote] Probably not when you compare by demographics. CMI will likely be all 2 stars this year. [/quote] Here we go. The vocal anti-CMI poster. Give it a break will you. [/quote] 35% ELA scores. Comparatively, nearby title 1 DCPS score higher. Barnard 37%, West 42%, Whittier 43%, Truesdell 43%, Dorothy Height 41%, Bruce Monroe 39%.[/quote] True, but this does not give the full picture... CMI 60% 3rd grade math. Comparatively, nearby title 1 DCPS scores. Barnard 38.6%, West 43.2%, Whittier 66.7%, Truesdell 23.6%, Dorothy Height 48.1%, Bruce Monroe 38.9%. CMI 70% 4th grade math. Comparatively, nearby title 1 DCPS scores. Barnard 47.4%, West 42.4%, Whittier 47.8%, Truesdell 28.6%, Dorothy Height 46.7%, Bruce Monroe 38.8%. [/quote] Why are you cherry picking math? Stay on topic. You are supposed to be 30-40 points higher in every subject when you’re being compared to a 70% low income or a 60% ELL school. You are not supposed to be 10 points lower in ELA is the point. CMI 3rd grade ELA: 39% ITS 3rd grade ELA (for closet peer comparison WOW!!): 63% (69% in math) Barnard 3rd grade ELA: 21% West 3rd grade ELA: 49% Whittier 3rd grade ELA: 48% CMI 4th grade ELA: 35% [b]ITS 4th grade ELA: 85% (double wow!! A 50 point spread) (74% in math)[/b] Barnard 4th grade ELA: 49% West 4th grade ELA: 29% Whittier 4th grade ELA: 43% So I’m begging to know which DCPS school most of y’all are zoned for that is worse than CMI because travel data show many (most) come from nearby.[/quote] NP. They aren’t cherry picking math any more than you are cherry picking ELA. Congrats to CMI for its success in math. Congrats to Bruce Monroe for success in ELA! Wonderful to see successes wherever they come.[/quote] Uh no. CMI scored in Math the way they are SUPPOSED to score based on their demographics. I said that in PP. You’re burying the lead. CMI continues to miss city averages on almost every other measurement. They are scoring 10-15% lower than a school with 2-3 times more low income and English-language learners. Their 4th graders are 50 points away from the 4th graders down the street at Inspired (a school with similar demographics). Overall, white students are 20 points lower than city average.[/quote] What I find interesting is that CMI parents don’t care. I have a friend at CMI who has a 4th grader, I’ve seen the math - they are way behind what my child did in 4th grade. Yet, if you bring up any concerns they spew weird rhetoric at you. [/quote] I find this so interesting. Why do you think the parents turn such a blind eye to the academic failings? And when do they finally wake up and realize the issue (or do they ever)?[/quote] 3-4 years at the school or 4th grade, whichever comes first.[/quote] By then aren't the kids significantly behind? So many schools instill a love of school and a love of learning with good academics. Why can't CMI do the same? Or is it the parents who initial think you can't have both so push for love of school over everything else?[/quote] It is a mix of parents that are afraid of their IB school because it’s too brown or poor and thinking they can supplement where CMI fails as long as they get their social emotional needs met or parents who don’t want to admit when they’ve made a mistake with their child’s education. For most high SES families, 3 years isn’t a total loss and they can improve when they get to their new school. But when they inevitably leave in 2nd or 3rd grade, the school likely ends up replacing that 2-3 parcc scoring kid with a 1-2 scoring kid. If you look at the lottery data, you will see the writing is already on the wall. Their WL was basically declined by nearly 40-50% in many grades in just one year. They basically cleared their waitlist for K, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, and 8th. The myschool link for schools with short waitlists show 5, 6, and 8 but it should be updated to reflect current, lower grades as I know they cleared a few grades after people removed themselves from the waitlist. Their PK3 applicants declined from 406 last year to 212 this year. PK4 went from 278 to 177. K went from 255 to 134. People will say it’s because MV8 opened this year leaving parents with opting for MV8 over CMI in their 12 spots. I disagree. 3rd grade also cut in half. Similar non language schools’ WL like ITS and TR stayed same or +/- 10-20 points. Quite frankly, I’m still surprised that 200 pk3 families wasted a lottery slot on a two star elementary school when better performing schools like Barnard had 70 applicants. You can’t tell me it’s not race/SES related.[/quote] Did you attend the school? If so do you think the new Principal might be able to turn it around? The facilities are beautiful and it certainly looks like a wonderful place to be. I have a friend who just started their this year in the pre-k grades and one of the things she stressed about their decision to go there is they wanted their kid to love school at this stage. I personally feel most kids in the early ages love school no matter where they go as most of the preschool programs and early elementaey years do a good job in that department. But I was struck by their feelings that you couldn't have strong academics and a love for school at the same place (or that that was too much to expect in these early years maybe). I never would have framed the issue that way. [/quote] You can certainly have both. The problem is your friend probably didn’t even consider any of the schools that have both.[/quote]
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