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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What I don't get is this:

Let's say that we did your math and removed both athletes and legacies.  The breakdown by your method, I believe, would be 4295 whites and 2669 Asians.  That's roughly 1.6 whites getting in for every Asian.  This is based solely on whatever standards are left, presumably 'merit'.

so why, when you remove race, does the ratio suddenly shift to .72 white students for every Asian?   It doesn't make sense that the ratios are so far off.  If anything, according to your logic, more whites applying should mean that more whites are admitted in both groups.  If more Asians are admitted in the second group because they are more qualified, then what explains the first group?  I'm not saying the ratios need to be the same, but does it make intuitive sense that they are so far off?

Imagine you were able to line up every applicant to Harvard from 1-40000 in order of merit (which is what people who want to blow the system up think will magically happen).  If that was the case, your analysis suggests that the front of the line be predominantly white but this one section of the line (spots 7000-8000) would be predominantly Asian. These are the students who are replacing the 'less qualified' AA and Hispanics who are now not getting in?  does that make ssense to you, especially when the raw numbers of Asian to white applicants is so low?
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Removing athlete and legacy preference, but keeping racial preference, total admits by race: 4,295 whites and 2,669 asians.

This is a white to asian admit ratio of 1.6 as you said.

Removing all preferences, total admits by race: 4,947 whites and 3,564 asians.

This lowers the ratio from 1.6 to 1.4.  I'm not sure where the .72 number comes from.[/quote]

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