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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t know that the math is that easy since the author doesn’t explain how the table is created - I don’t know how they get any of the numbers in the table so forgive if me I’m skeptical that your simple math is the right methodology.  I’d prefer to see the author of the table had reached the number, assuming they are intellectually honest.

But assuming you are correct that Asians see more of the gains when all preferences are removed, why aren’t Asians at a higher raw number than whites when legacy and athlete preferences only are removed?  It doesn’t make sense that the first group of admits are skewed towards whites but that the second group is skewed towards Asians.[/quote]

I'd like to answer your question but I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  There is no scenario where Asians become a higher raw number than whites due to the fact that so many more whites apply.

If legacy preference is removed: Whites -204, Asians +100, AA -56, Hispanics +63.  As I mentioned previously, some of this imbalance reflects the racial makeup of the last 50 years of Harvard alumni and will naturally correct itself over time.  I am certainly in favor of either removing legacy preference altogether (even though my kids would benefit from it) or imputing an equal advantage upon historically under-represented groups as a form of affirmative action.

[quote=Anonymous]I too am appalled at the culture of victimhood in this country, especially that perpetuated by middle class whites.[/quote]

I don't see it in middle class families where I live, but I do see it in poorer communities.  Both black and white.  It is not an ideology confined by race.  Where my family hails from in the rust belt, the traditional values of discipline and self-reliance are slowly being replaced by the same culture of victimhood that much of our african american inner city populations suffer from.  Both populations have been criminally neglected, although inner city african americans have suffered longer and more visibly than others.  I wish we had politicians who could inspire society to start to fix some of the real underlying systemic causes but unfortunately I see the opposite: politicians who want to amplify feelings of victimization.  I won't name names but they lead on both sides of the aisle.  What we are left with is the simple fact that if you want to improve your lot in life, the only person really interested in helping you is yourself.[/quote]

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